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I get his point, but this really seems like another case where writing the ChatGPT prompt takes almost as much effort as writing the message yourself.

adamredwoods 4y ago
The bonus of ChatGPT is it removes the flare-up of human emotions. I could write something like this, but not without a few passes to remove expletives.
- b0ner_t0ner 4y ago
  Stepping back and looking at the why you'd be angry, this speaks more about the car culture, bad infrastructure, ease of parking payment system...
- DoesntMatter22 4y ago
  Yeap. And just helps with general presentation and writing. I tend to ramble more where as here I just lay out the facts and it constructs it very well. If it gets wordy I tell it to reduce it. Writing an hour long email now takes me 15 minutes.
noobermin 4y ago
So ChatGPT will be useful for people to skate even longer if they don't have basic composition skills.
- sitkack 4y ago
  In the future, most people will be functionally illiterate but extremely technologically savvy. Programming will looks like wizards conjuring things from a soup.
  - SamBam 4y ago
    That is an amazing image of the future (not the literal image but the metaphor). What if programmers of the future have almost no knowledge at all of how a program works? I guess in much the same way as most modern programmers have no knowledge of machine code, but even more so. They don't even know what language they're writing in. "Write an app that connects people of similar interests, and incentivizes them to sell products to each other." "Make it friendlier-looking" "Add Stripe payments" Anyone can do it, but just like artists of the future will be those who have memorized all the clever phrases to get Stable Diffusion to do its thing, programmers will be wizards who know all the invocations that generally seem to make something that works roughly right, and doesn't have too many bugs. (Edit: Asking ChatGPT to "write JavaScript program that asks the user for their name and then greets them with a funny nickname it invents based on the name" resulted in a perfectly decent program.)
    - DoesntMatter22 4y ago
      This is not far off. Though for now you need to have good coding skills to glue what gpt spits out. It's not far from it now. I have it spit out components and I don't know all the details. It just works
    - visarga 4y ago
      Prompting is like alchemy now, but in the future you'll just say what you want. AI prompter will be the shortest lived job.
      - sitkack 4y ago
        > AI prompter will be the shortest lived job. I don't think so. Crafting good requirements that guide the AI to the solution will be a dominant skill. If you can't articulate your problem and possible solutions, the model isn't going to be able to do anything for you. I am senior engineer that works with skilled customers and they have a difficult time even understanding the problem let alone the solution to the problem they think they have.
  - visarga 4y ago
    > In the future, most people will be functionally illiterate Chatting AIs up all day long will improve people's vocabulary and expression. Language models could be the best language learning partner.
    - TheChaplain 4y ago
      Not really, combine OpenAI/ChatGPT with Googles knowledge about you, and it could likely figure out quickly what you want with minimum input. Possibly even predict and deliver before you are even aware you need it.
    - sitkack 4y ago
      You can be illiterate and still have an excellent grasp of language and participate in a dialectical argument with the AI to arrive at a solution. Functionally illiterate here means that there is a reduced reliance on reading, writing or on the end user's ability to understand the code produced.
poglet 4y ago
I feel like it might be better suited for people like myself who constantly rewrite sentences multiple times until happy with them.
aaron695 4y ago
zulban 4y ago
Most people are not able to write an email which is that professional.
sigmar 4y ago
I agree, but would like to see what the chatgpt would come up with in a similar but more convoluted example. Like if the ticket was given to someone who misread the verbiage of the parking rules signs, and chatgpt could come up with verbose explanations as to why the wording was confusing. I could see someone at the council office reviewing the 10-bullet point email arguing the linguistic semantics and just thinking "forget reading all this, I'll just remove the fine"
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adamredwoods 4y ago

The bonus of ChatGPT is it removes the flare-up of human emotions. I could write something like this, but not without a few passes to remove expletives.

b0ner_t0ner 4y ago
Stepping back and looking at the why you'd be angry, this speaks more about the car culture, bad infrastructure, ease of parking payment system...
DoesntMatter22 4y ago
Yeap. And just helps with general presentation and writing. I tend to ramble more where as here I just lay out the facts and it constructs it very well. If it gets wordy I tell it to reduce it. Writing an hour long email now takes me 15 minutes.

noobermin 4y ago

So ChatGPT will be useful for people to skate even longer if they don't have basic composition skills.

sitkack 4y ago
In the future, most people will be functionally illiterate but extremely technologically savvy. Programming will looks like wizards conjuring things from a soup.
- SamBam 4y ago
  That is an amazing image of the future (not the literal image but the metaphor). What if programmers of the future have almost no knowledge at all of how a program works? I guess in much the same way as most modern programmers have no knowledge of machine code, but even more so. They don't even know what language they're writing in. "Write an app that connects people of similar interests, and incentivizes them to sell products to each other." "Make it friendlier-looking" "Add Stripe payments" Anyone can do it, but just like artists of the future will be those who have memorized all the clever phrases to get Stable Diffusion to do its thing, programmers will be wizards who know all the invocations that generally seem to make something that works roughly right, and doesn't have too many bugs. (Edit: Asking ChatGPT to "write JavaScript program that asks the user for their name and then greets them with a funny nickname it invents based on the name" resulted in a perfectly decent program.)
  - DoesntMatter22 4y ago
    This is not far off. Though for now you need to have good coding skills to glue what gpt spits out. It's not far from it now. I have it spit out components and I don't know all the details. It just works
  - visarga 4y ago
    Prompting is like alchemy now, but in the future you'll just say what you want. AI prompter will be the shortest lived job.
    - sitkack 4y ago
      > AI prompter will be the shortest lived job. I don't think so. Crafting good requirements that guide the AI to the solution will be a dominant skill. If you can't articulate your problem and possible solutions, the model isn't going to be able to do anything for you. I am senior engineer that works with skilled customers and they have a difficult time even understanding the problem let alone the solution to the problem they think they have.
- visarga 4y ago
  > In the future, most people will be functionally illiterate Chatting AIs up all day long will improve people's vocabulary and expression. Language models could be the best language learning partner.
  - TheChaplain 4y ago
    Not really, combine OpenAI/ChatGPT with Googles knowledge about you, and it could likely figure out quickly what you want with minimum input. Possibly even predict and deliver before you are even aware you need it.
  - sitkack 4y ago
    You can be illiterate and still have an excellent grasp of language and participate in a dialectical argument with the AI to arrive at a solution. Functionally illiterate here means that there is a reduced reliance on reading, writing or on the end user's ability to understand the code produced.

poglet 4y ago

I feel like it might be better suited for people like myself who constantly rewrite sentences multiple times until happy with them.

aaron695 4y ago

zulban 4y ago

Most people are not able to write an email which is that professional.

sigmar 4y ago

I agree, but would like to see what the chatgpt would come up with in a similar but more convoluted example. Like if the ticket was given to someone who misread the verbiage of the parking rules signs, and chatgpt could come up with verbose explanations as to why the wording was confusing. I could see someone at the council office reviewing the 10-bullet point email arguing the linguistic semantics and just thinking "forget reading all this, I'll just remove the fine"

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