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While many large corporations declare record profits, I doubt that the person cleaning the toilets is really a major issue.
by mgbmtl 4y ago
While many large corporations declare record profits, I doubt that the person cleaning the toilets is really a major issue.
- luckylion 4y agoIt's not only about the person cleaning the toilets, companies often have more than one employee that's paid too little. Look at nurses for example: you need plenty of them in hospitals and nursing homes, they are (in my opinion) severely underpaid. Raise their wages by 50%. You can make an educated guess how that will influence the price of healthcare or living in a nursing home.
- zozbot234 4y agoNurses are highly skilled and highly paid workers, they do however have nursing aides for the grunt work.
- alistairSH 4y agoDepends on the nurses qualifications and specialty. Licensed vocational nurse don’t earn a huge amount. Registered nurses (4 year degree+) make ok to good money. Advanced practice nurses make good money overall. But they have post- graduate degrees and still don’t earn what a good senior developer does.
- luckylion 4y agoThat may be the case in the US, but not in Germany and Austria. Nurses are paid pretty bad, and, surprise surprise, they're having problems finding people to choose that career.
- soco 4y agoYeah there's this huge demand, for which they blame blame the nurses "ungrateful snobs" or get upset that immigrants are hired "taking away our jobs" or...
- imoverclocked 4y agoIn some places they may be highly paid. In many, they are not. I know this because of close family who have worked as managers of multiple hospitals and hospice that have extremely uneven pay scales even in a single region. You might even assert that the people with less pay have more/sufficient staffing on hand but you would be wrong. The amount of WTF/hospital in the US never ceases to surprise me.
- wizofaus 4y agoI'm actually curious in what parts of world anyone would genuinely consider nurses to be "highly paid". The hourly rates for some types of nursing work can be quite decent, but still markedly less than what virtually anyone in IT with similar levels of experience would expect to receive. And it's often sufficiently physically draining that it's not feasible for most to work 40-50 hours a week.
- CrazyStat 4y ago>You can make an educated guess how that will influence the price of healthcare or living in a nursing home. Based on the $49 charge for 5ml of sugar water to calm our newborn baby down so a nurse could draw his blood, probably not much. (The nurse failed to draw his blood. After four or five failed attempts over several hours they eventually asked a nurse from the NICU to come over, who got it first try.)
- samus 4y agoThe nurse is probably receiving very little of these $49. It's probably an inflated price charged by the hospital that is usually negotiated down to something reasonable by the health insurance provider. Similar to the discussion I had with my product manager recently: she can't expect that consultant to work according to the 100$ per hour that his company charges, because he is likely receiving a lot less.
- Dylan16807 4y ago> The nurse is probably receiving very little of these $49 Yes, that was the point. That the price of healthcare isn't based on the wages of the nurse.
- majewsky 4y agoBut that's the point, no? If you double the consultant's salary, you won't have to pay double because most of it is just pure margin.
- samus 4y agoThat assumes that the employer is willing to lose part of their margin and doesn't charge it back to their customers. Maybe not on the current contract, but future ones.