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‘Rich’ is a relative term but my family might qualify as ‘old rich’ and do tend to distinguish from ‘new rich’. The terms are misnomers. People who might be lab

‘Rich’ is a relative term but my family might qualify as ‘old rich’ and do tend to distinguish from ‘new rich’. The terms are misnomers. People who might be labelled ‘new rich’ or ‘nouveau riche’ do not have the qualities of tastes, behaviours, or values that are handed down and refined over many generations. It is a relatively easy-to-observe distinction. I am not saying it’s an important distinction to me.

nonethewiser 4y ago
> People who might be labelled ‘new rich’ or ‘nouveau riche’ do not have the qualities of tastes, behaviours, or values that are handed down and refined over many generations Such as? 4 dinner forks?
- andsoitis 4y ago
  > Such as? 4 dinner forks? It is not about what you do have and what you do, but rather what you don’t do that distinguishes.
JoeAltmaier 4y ago
It's a term made up to embarrass newcomers. Cultural differences are not right or wrong, they just are. To say someone has the wrong 'qualities of tastes, behaviors or values' is arrogance. Everybody's culture is handed down, that's another weasel-phrase that just disguises bigotry.
- Veen 4y ago
  That's exactly what a parvenu would say. Not the done thing, old chap. Too chippy. You won't be invited to the best parties with that attitude.
  - B1FF_PSUVM 4y ago
    Bless his heart, poor fellow, I'm sure he means well. Perhaps he's not really a bolshevik. But anyway ...
- vjulian 4y ago
  It’s a poor term but one that simply refers to observable differences. It is unfortunate that there may be bigory or judgements accorded. I am inclined to suppose that those people are in the minority.
thrwwmbkpr 4y ago
This makes sense, and sounds reasonable. I think people are getting hung up on 'qualities of tastes', believing (I assume) it is a value judgement. I read it as 'characteristics'. As a result of proximity over time, the 'old rich' have developed unique cultural habits that are easily recognized as different to 'new rich'. Every group does this. Sure, there is good and bad to it, but it's a natural and expected outcome.

nonethewiser 4y ago

> People who might be labelled ‘new rich’ or ‘nouveau riche’ do not have the qualities of tastes, behaviours, or values that are handed down and refined over many generations Such as? 4 dinner forks?

andsoitis 4y ago
> Such as? 4 dinner forks? It is not about what you do have and what you do, but rather what you don’t do that distinguishes.

JoeAltmaier 4y ago

It's a term made up to embarrass newcomers. Cultural differences are not right or wrong, they just are. To say someone has the wrong 'qualities of tastes, behaviors or values' is arrogance. Everybody's culture is handed down, that's another weasel-phrase that just disguises bigotry.

Veen 4y ago
That's exactly what a parvenu would say. Not the done thing, old chap. Too chippy. You won't be invited to the best parties with that attitude.
- B1FF_PSUVM 4y ago
  Bless his heart, poor fellow, I'm sure he means well. Perhaps he's not really a bolshevik. But anyway ...
vjulian 4y ago
It’s a poor term but one that simply refers to observable differences. It is unfortunate that there may be bigory or judgements accorded. I am inclined to suppose that those people are in the minority.

thrwwmbkpr 4y ago

This makes sense, and sounds reasonable. I think people are getting hung up on 'qualities of tastes', believing (I assume) it is a value judgement. I read it as 'characteristics'. As a result of proximity over time, the 'old rich' have developed unique cultural habits that are easily recognized as different to 'new rich'. Every group does this. Sure, there is good and bad to it, but it's a natural and expected outcome.