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Tailscale is a real VPN, not a privacy proxy using VPN tech. VPNs have nothing to do with privacy, this is no worse than any other service doing it.

by franga2000 4y ago

mkl 4y ago
Virtual Private Networks are all about privacy. They aren't necessarily about anonymity though.
- BossingAround 4y ago
  Private != privacy. Private corporate networks do not guarantee privacy either.
  - mkl 4y ago
    They do guarantee privacy from the outside world. They don't necessarily guarantee anonymity or privacy within the network.
    - allarm 4y ago
      No they don’t. VPNs allow _access_ to a set of subnets that might not be accessible otherwise - normally from external to private. Even though usually vpn traffic is encrypted it’s not a rule or an inherent property of VPNs - see GRE and PPTP for example.
- newaccount74 4y ago
  The term "VPN service" has become synonymous with "proxy service that allows circumventing region locks that is implemented using VPN". These services are often pretty scammy and have come in the news often for harvesting user data. These VPN services have little to do with the traditional meaning of a VPN. They don't provide a private network at all, they just use VPN tech to implement a proxy service. Tailscale is not a "VPN service" in that sense, they actually provide software for setting up a VPN between computers you control.
  - mkl 4y ago
    Yes, that's what my comment is about: Tailscale is about privacy from the outside world for your network, not the privacy and anonymity VPN proxy services claim to provide.
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- franga2000 4y ago
  Something being private and having privacy mean very different things in practice. I can stand in the middle of a field that is my private land, but have no privacy from people on the adjacent road looking at what I'm doing or listening to what I'm saying.
humanistbot 4y ago
> VPNs have nothing to do with privacy Don't feed the trolls.

Tailscale is a real VPN, not a privacy proxy using VPN tech. VPNs have nothing to do with privacy, this is no worse than any other service doing it.

mkl 4y ago

Virtual Private Networks are all about privacy. They aren't necessarily about anonymity though.

BossingAround 4y ago
Private != privacy. Private corporate networks do not guarantee privacy either.
- mkl 4y ago
  They do guarantee privacy from the outside world. They don't necessarily guarantee anonymity or privacy within the network.
  - allarm 4y ago
    No they don’t. VPNs allow _access_ to a set of subnets that might not be accessible otherwise - normally from external to private. Even though usually vpn traffic is encrypted it’s not a rule or an inherent property of VPNs - see GRE and PPTP for example.
newaccount74 4y ago
The term "VPN service" has become synonymous with "proxy service that allows circumventing region locks that is implemented using VPN". These services are often pretty scammy and have come in the news often for harvesting user data. These VPN services have little to do with the traditional meaning of a VPN. They don't provide a private network at all, they just use VPN tech to implement a proxy service. Tailscale is not a "VPN service" in that sense, they actually provide software for setting up a VPN between computers you control.
- mkl 4y ago
  Yes, that's what my comment is about: Tailscale is about privacy from the outside world for your network, not the privacy and anonymity VPN proxy services claim to provide.
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franga2000 4y ago
Something being private and having privacy mean very different things in practice. I can stand in the middle of a field that is my private land, but have no privacy from people on the adjacent road looking at what I'm doing or listening to what I'm saying.

humanistbot 4y ago

> VPNs have nothing to do with privacy Don't feed the trolls.