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ReVanced DMCA Takedown on GitHub
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- pitched 4y agoThe DMCA notice: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2022/12/2022-12-07-pflotsh.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2022/12/2022-12-0... And the complaint itself: > On GitHub at https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches there is a patch that unlocks the subscription without payment for "Pflotsh ECMWF" and various other products. If that’s true, this can’t really be very controversial?
- 15155 4y agoCorrect me if I am wrong: the DMCA takedown process was not designed for circumvention devices - this is what courts are for. This company is not the copyright holder to these patches - they did not write them nor are they derivative works, so they need to use other legal means to approach this situation. This is not first time this has happened with GitHub.
- musicale 4y agoI think we may have a winner. Hopefully GitHub will learn eventually.
- rieTohgh6 4y ago> nor are they derivative works That isn't so obvious to me. For all intents and purposes this is no different from crack. I am not sure if DMCA is right tool but I totally understand why Microsoft wouldn't want to host it.
- reisse 4y ago> For all intents and purposes this is no different from crack. Yes, and you cannot take down crack using DMCA either! Edit: If the crack is a keygen or patcher, of course. Patched orginal binaries can be taken down.
- sofixa 4y ago> Patched orginal binaries can be taken down. That's what Vanced was, isn't it the same case with ReVanced?
- realusername 4y agoNo, Revanced only has the patches themselves in the repo, there's zero source code or binary or anything copyright related belonging to Google here, the DMCA is invalid.
- flawi 4y agoMy understanding was that `revanced-patches` contained just that: patches. The patches themselves are applied to the target apps on the end user device, so revanced doesn't need to host prepatched binaries that they don't own the copyright to. Other moral or legal issues aside, this is a pretty clear abuse of the DMCA as far as I understand it.
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- lapser 4y agoIf I'm reading this[0] correct, according to GitHub it includes that too. [0] https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-policies/guide-to-submitting-a-dmca-takedown-notice#complaints-about-anti-circumvention-technology https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-polic...
- davorak 4y agoThe weather data that the circumvention provides access to is not copy righted though right? From other comments I gather it comes from public data and is not the companies. If so it would not meet the criteria in the first sentence of your link: > The Copyright Act also prohibits the circumvention of technological measures that effectively control access to works protected by copyright. That is an interesting corner case, not sure if it is a bug or a feature.
- 3np 4y agoFWIW commit 44bc7074ea8aaa6f774ad23dd0667477cbe1caf1 (GH search) removes the mentioned parts if anyone wants a "clean" version. Apart from the taken down revanced-patches repo, other repos in the revanced gh org are still up.
- trynewideas 4y agoMore context: It's a successor to Vanced, a patched Android YouTube client that, among other things, disabled ads. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Vanced?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Vanced?wprov=sfla1 ReVanced apparently had patches for more apps, which seems to have contributed to the takedown. See also https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-discussion-revanced-the-successor-to-vanced.4502039/ https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-discussion-revanced-t..., and previously https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30801912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30801912. Why are these mod projects bothering to distribute on GitHub but then try to obfuscate what they do into Discords and online subculture hangouts?
- lzaaz 4y agoPopularity I assume - people will be less hesitant to download an apk file from github, even if being on github doesn't really make it trustable in practical terms.
- cuteboy19 4y agoPresumably there are a lot of these dark projects which aren't anywhere public. We just don't hear about them
- lzaaz 4y agoIf you spend enough time in /g/ you will hear of everything.
- Scarlxd 4y agoWhat's /g/ anyway?
- matheusmoreira 4y ago4chan's technology board.
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- ranguna 4y agoPatiently waiting for all repos to be moved to gitlab (or a self hosted instance of gitlab)
- elashri 4y agoThey can (and will) serve a DMCA request to the hosting provider (or the ISP).
- rglullis 4y agoRadicle, then? Or more simply self-hosted gitea on an ENS domain?
- sschueller 4y agoDMCA only works in the United States.
- passwordoops 4y agoThe Darknet Diaries episode on the Pirate Bay [1] touched on the long tentacles of US copyright law [1] https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/92/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/92/
- tpxl 4y agoDoes it? It's obviously US legislation, but I'd wager there are trade agreements between EU (or others) and US that require the EU to honor this legislation.
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoNot the DMCA but local copyright laws. But since this is not an actual copyright issue, you just need someone to tell google that the revanced code is not copyrighted by google. (unless there was any copyrighted material in the repo, then it's a different story)
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- DoingIsLearning 4y ago> Please describe the nature of your copyright ownership or authorization to act on the owner's behalf. > We (Garzotto GmbH together with Kachelmann GmbH) are the owner of the product "Pflotsh ECMWF", a weather app for which a subscription can be purchased on Google Play. I am [private], [private] of Garzotto GmbH and submit this request on behalf of Garzotto GmbH > Please provide a detailed description of the original copyrighted work that has allegedly been infringed. If possible, include a URL to where it is posted online. > On GitHub at https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches there is a patch that unlocks the subscription without payment for "Pflotsh ECMWF" and various other products. > What files should be taken down? Please provide URLs for each file, or if the entire repository, the repository’s URL. > https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches > The entire repository must be taken down. Even if our copyright considers part of it ( https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches/tree/main/src/main/kotlin/app/revanced/patches/ecmwf/misc/subscription https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches/tree/main/src/m... ) the complete repository at https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches is clearly illegal, which you see immediately if you just spend a few seconds to check it out. So let's get this right, a Swiss company abusing the fact that Github is US hosted is using a Copyright claim mechanism for US based copyright holders (DMCA) to claim that the entire app is 'illegal™' because someone found a way to get their weather forecasts without a paying subscription. "Anti-circumvention Technology" DMCA claims are absolute horseshit. If you follow this ad ridiculum then curl and ffmpeg should also be 'illegal™' technology.
- izacus 4y agoWell, we Europeans are constantly abused under this DMCA cancer so I don't see anything wrong with using it for gain? (It's not like USians are showing any will to get rid of DMCA).
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- malermeister 4y agoHow is it "for gain"?
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- zozbot234 4y agoAnd nothing of value was lost. If you want ad-free services, you can absolutely afford to chip in some money to the service provider, which keeps things above-board and legit. Don't be a darn cheapskate.
- DoingIsLearning 4y agoA bit too judgemental. Please point us towards an ad-free paying service that doesn't simultaneously track your profile/views/clicks? The problem at the moment is that there is no multimedia host that actually just hosts, they all track unique customer habits chasing that recommendation engine big data gravy train. Also reminder that most copyright infringement is from non-industrialized nations where people indeed cannot afford to 'chip in some money to the service provider'.
- kuschku 4y agoThe data this company has put behind a paywall is the european weather model, which was developed with tax payer money, is run with tax payer money, and the data of which is almost entirely available for free to anyone that wants to access the data. Companies like the one that posted this take down notice actually sued (!) the national weather services in a few EU countries to prevent national weather services from publishing weather data to consumers for free, arguing that the weather service should run free APIs, but these companies should be able to build ad and subscription supported apps using these free APIs. https://www.dwd.de/DE/presse/pressemitteilungen/DE/2020/20200312_bgh_urteil_news.html https://www.dwd.de/DE/presse/pressemitteilungen/DE/2020/2020... All these companies did was build a fence around it and charge a fee. How does that even reach the necessary threshold of originality for copyright?
- that_guy_iain 4y agoBecause they built the app... They aren't copyrighting the data. They're copyrighting their app.
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- harengon 4y agoDMCA is an illness. Intellectual property is a disaster.
- kuschku 4y agoThis is typical behaviour for companies like these. The app here is just another weather app taking data from the european weather models and national weather services. This data was created by taxpayer money and is most of the time available for free via APIs from national weather services (although "API" often means "a daily file dump on an FTP"). Then these companies take this free data, build an app around it and monetize it. https://www.dwd.de/DE/presse/pressemitteilungen/DE/2020/20200312_bgh_urteil_news.html https://www.dwd.de/DE/presse/pressemitteilungen/DE/2020/2020... In this recent court case in nearby Germany, ad-supported weather apps sued the German national weather service to take down the official free weather app. The national weather service was forced to make their app paid due to this ruling. The APIs and data dumps for corporate customers have to remain available, though. Nowadays I refuse to use any private weather apps. Private weather apps take public data, fill it with ads, and then sell it back to us. I say: Fuck them.
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- olabyne 4y agouuh, wat ? Revanced is an alternative youtube player ? You are in the wrong thread ?
- kuschku 4y agoRevanced YouTube itself, yes. But the revanced project also removes ads and adds features to many other apps, including some weather apps. And one of those got Revanced taken down.
- Bilal_io 4y agoReVanced is more like a patch manager. The patches come from a separate repo which contains patches for more than YouTube. You'd find Twitter, TikTok, Twitch and much more. The issue is that someone accepted a PR for a patch a "premium" weather app. The DMCA takedown request came from the weather app's owners.
- pwdisswordfish9 4y agoI'm not necessarily rooting for the ReVanced project here, but… this takedown notice is supposedly claiming circumvention of access controls to copyrighted content? Since when is weather data copyrightable? Unlike what happens in Europe, the US doesn't recognise separate "database rights" either. > the complete repository at https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches https://github.com/revanced/revanced-patches is clearly illegal, which you see immediately if you just spend a few seconds to check it out. I mean, this was clearly not written by a lawyer.
- rasz 4y agoYou cant copyright raw data. You could claim your particular data is a compilation tho https://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/database.html https://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/database.html
- kuschku 4y agoEither US law applies, then the DCMA is valid, but compilations can not be copyrighted. Or Swiss law applies, then compilations can be copyrighted, but DMCA does not apply.
- usefulcomment3 4y agoMirror here: https://web.archive.org/web/20221209134101im_/https://tmp.onion.moe/revanced-patches-v2.141.1.bundle https://web.archive.org/web/20221209134101im_/https://tmp.on... Download this Git bundle file and clone from it directly: wget https://web.archive.org/web/20221209134101im_/https://tmp.onion.moe/revanced-patches-v2.141.1.bundle git clone revanced-patches-v2.141.1.bundle revanced-patches It has the full commit history up until a few hours prior to the repository being taken down.
- worldmerge 4y agoIf you are doing something that might be DMCA issue, why not host the repo in China on a service like https://gitee.com/ https://gitee.com/ ?
- nigamanth 4y agoNo wonder ReVanced got taken down on GitHub, the chances are that someone from YouTube issued a DMCA takedown, or it could just be any youtuber knowing that their content on YouTube was going without ads on android. GitHub has to take action, and here we are with ReVanced being taken down. I don't take this as a surprise, GitHub will take action if people write to them or send them a DMCA takedown.
- noirscape 4y agoThis takedown has nothing to do with YouTube. The repo was distributing patches for non-YouTube apps as well; specifically AnyTracker[0] and Pflotsch ECMWF[1]. Both of these patches appear to have been disablers for the Google Play License checks to permit usage of their respective "premium" version and both developers filed takedowns. Suprisingly not Google (the original Vanced) or the MPAA (youtube-dl) this time. [0]: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2022/12/2022-12-06-anytracker.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2022/12/2022-12-0... [1]: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2022/12/2022-12-07-pflotsh.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2022/12/2022-12-0...
- laurentlbm 4y agoThe repository is back. The offending patches (for the apps AnyTracker and Pflotsh ECMWF) have been removed.
- trynewideas 4y agoSeems like the takedown was reversed, and the offending patches appear to be gone.