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If Elizabeth Holmes is going to jail then SBF probably is too.
by fnands 4y ago
If Elizabeth Holmes is going to jail then SBF probably is too.
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- aliqot 4y ago
- bhouston 4y agoShe had similarly connected political board members: https://news.crunchbase.com/health-wellness-biotech/theranos-elizabeth-holmes-trial-investors-board/ https://news.crunchbase.com/health-wellness-biotech/theranos... Henry Kissinger (former United States Secretary of State); Jim Mattis (retired Marine Corps four-star general); George Shultz (former United States Secretary of State); Richard Kovacevich (former CEO of Wells Fargo); William Perry (former United States Secretary of Defense); William Foege (former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention). She is like a little FTX in that sense. But I don't believe the Clintons' are uniquely corrupt, rather just as corrupt as similarly powerful US politicians. I am not a believer if QAnon conspiracies.
- phone8675309 4y agoIt’s always a good thing when someone screws over Kissinger. She should get a pardon just for that.
- wutbrodo 4y agoI don't share GP's cynicism, but I think the argument would be that none of those people are "similarly powerful" to the Clintons.
- fredoralive 4y agoHow Henry Kissinger's stock has fallen it seems...
- DonHopkins 4y agoHe's still got nicer legs than Hitler, and bigger tits than Cher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5vo7jLGOb8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5vo7jLGOb8
- aliqot 4y agoPut "-Dynasty" after all of them, and the only one that fits and has common use is "Clinton Dynasty"
- dv_dt 4y agoShe had connected investors who felt defrauded. That increased the odds of her getting convicted. If they thought there was still a chance of getting value out the odds would probably lean the other way.
- Firmwarrior 4y agoI think if the system were as corrupt as you guys say, Holmes would have committed suicide or suffered some debilitating accident or something. Going to jail for just a few years doesn't feel like much of a dose of vengeance
- dv_dt 4y agoThat’s an escalation ad absurdism of what my actual opinion is about outcomes.
- boredumb 4y agoDon't be too cynical, she was the crown jewel of the "Presidential Ambassadors for Global Entrepreneurship" for the Obama admin.
- Calavar 4y agoShe very much did have an association with the Clintons: https://www.vox.com/2016/3/14/11586966/theranos-ceo-elizabeth-holmes-is-holding-a-hillary-fundraiser-with https://www.vox.com/2016/3/14/11586966/theranos-ceo-elizabet...
- fourseventy 4y agoShe actually does. Check your facts.
- remind_me_again 4y ago
- gerad 4y agoBernie Madoff got sentenced to >100 years. That feels like a pretty close comp to me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff
- brookst 4y agoYes. What the performatively cynical crowd is missing is that SBF, like Elizabeth Holmes, stole from the rich. Even for people who believe that everything is 100% corrupt 100% of the time in the American justice system, SBF going to jail should be seen as confirmation of that bias.
- wsc981 4y agoI believe SBF stated in a recent video that it might be possible for US clients to be “made whole” (indirectly stating everyone else will be fucked). So if he manages to return funds to US investors, would he still be likely to be prosecuted?
- brookst 4y agoEverything is probabalistic. That would reduce the odds by reducing the number of powerful people putting pressure on prosecutors. But plenty of rich and powerful non-US people have influence in the US. And stealing from the rich isn't the only factor at play here. Even if all of the money was returned to everyone, there are plenty of rich/powerful people and institutions who dislike crypto for various legit and corrupt reasons, so there would still be some pressure to prosecute. IMO he's fucked, even aside from the stealing from the rich angle. It's just too high profile and too embarrassing to too many regulatory agencies. He's well into "make an example of" territory.
- pgwhalen 4y agoSBF also stated that he just needed to raise $8B and everything would be okay. I'm not sure if he's delusional or lying, or some combination of the two, but I think we're past the point where we should believe much of what he says.
- brookst 4y agoI mean if you give me $8B, I assure you everything will be ok.
- smilespray 4y ago