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Before the COVID-19 pandemic, many people in the West took for granted the freedom and mobility that we enjoy in our societies. We assumed that the government w

Before the COVID-19 pandemic, many people in the West took for granted the freedom and mobility that we enjoy in our societies. We assumed that the government would never impose drastic measures such as curfews or lockdowns, because these measures are often associated with authoritarian regimes. However, the pandemic has forced us to reevaluate these assumptions, because as soon as some governments in the West saw how well it "worked" in China they decided to implement the same thing.

athrowaway12 4y ago
Where in the West were there actual curfews? In the U.S. I don't remember there being any; just some talk about potentially quarantining NYC which of course never actually happened.
- poszlem 4y ago
  * https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sydney-covid-19-lockdown-be-extended-until-sept-end-2021-08-20/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sydney-covid-19-l... * https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-pu... * https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55424855 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55424855 * https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/boris-johnson-orders-uk-lockdown-to-be-enforced-by-police https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/boris-johnson-... * https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2020/03/13/5e6b844e21efa0dd258b45a5.html https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2020/03/13/5e6b844e21efa0dd258... * https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/poland-in-covid-19-lockdown-pm-orders-bars-restaurants-shopping-centres-and-borders-closed---and-cancels-all-flights-11142 https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/poland-in-covid-19-lock... * https://www.wsj.com/articles/italy-bolsters-quarantine-checks-after-initial-lockdown-confusion-11583756737 https://www.wsj.com/articles/italy-bolsters-quarantine-check... I could do this all day. I find it hard to believe that you genuinely don't know about any of that.
  - athrowaway12 4y ago
    Ah ok, so Australia, UK, Spain, Italy, Poland. Not the U.S. though right? I guess Europeans had a much stricter lockdown. You're right though, I genuinely didn't know it was so strict in Europe and Australia.
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scatters 4y ago
The West has always had pandemic measures. We were just lucky enough to go a hundred years without needing them.
marcosdumay 4y ago
> curfews or lockdowns Where did those last after the emergency?
- smazga 4y ago
  These comment threads about covid drive me nuts. At times more people were dying _per day_ from covid than died from the terror attack on 9/11, but there has been far more long term government overreach from 9/11 than there was the short term blip of emergency measures from covid.
  - nailer 4y ago
    Was it mainly otherwise healthy people dying from covid or mainly elderly, immunucompromised and morbidly obese people dying?

athrowaway12 4y ago

Where in the West were there actual curfews? In the U.S. I don't remember there being any; just some talk about potentially quarantining NYC which of course never actually happened.

poszlem 4y ago
* https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sydney-covid-19-lockdown-be-extended-until-sept-end-2021-08-20/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sydney-covid-19-l... * https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-pu... * https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55424855 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55424855 * https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/boris-johnson-orders-uk-lockdown-to-be-enforced-by-police https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/boris-johnson-... * https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2020/03/13/5e6b844e21efa0dd258b45a5.html https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2020/03/13/5e6b844e21efa0dd258... * https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/poland-in-covid-19-lockdown-pm-orders-bars-restaurants-shopping-centres-and-borders-closed---and-cancels-all-flights-11142 https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/poland-in-covid-19-lock... * https://www.wsj.com/articles/italy-bolsters-quarantine-checks-after-initial-lockdown-confusion-11583756737 https://www.wsj.com/articles/italy-bolsters-quarantine-check... I could do this all day. I find it hard to believe that you genuinely don't know about any of that.
- athrowaway12 4y ago
  Ah ok, so Australia, UK, Spain, Italy, Poland. Not the U.S. though right? I guess Europeans had a much stricter lockdown. You're right though, I genuinely didn't know it was so strict in Europe and Australia.
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scatters 4y ago

The West has always had pandemic measures. We were just lucky enough to go a hundred years without needing them.

marcosdumay 4y ago

> curfews or lockdowns Where did those last after the emergency?

smazga 4y ago
These comment threads about covid drive me nuts. At times more people were dying _per day_ from covid than died from the terror attack on 9/11, but there has been far more long term government overreach from 9/11 than there was the short term blip of emergency measures from covid.
- nailer 4y ago
  Was it mainly otherwise healthy people dying from covid or mainly elderly, immunucompromised and morbidly obese people dying?