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Carlos Ghosn agrees with your sentiment.

twelve40 4y ago
that guy is on another level : ) > splitting his time between Paris and Tokyo and logging roughly 150,000 miles (241 400 km) in airplanes per year even before his latest adventures, he lived a very, very intense life all over the world, including the Lebanon, which is an adventure on its own. It'd be harder to pull off for an average tech executive.
- version_five 4y ago
  If I'm ever a multi- billionaire, I will invest in a stand-by exfiltratiom team that is ready to get me out of whatever I get into and take me to a friendly place. If guys like Musk and Gates don't have this, their priorities are all wrong. I assume Peter Thiel does.
  - staticman2 4y ago
    I'll gladly take your money to be on standby to exfiltrate you, good sir, and happily say "Sorry boss, can't be done" if you ever ask me to actually risk jail time for your privileged, billionnaire ass.
    - twelve40 4y ago
      well, Ghosn was successfully exfiltrated by his team, so it is possible! although his rescuers got busted, but let's hope he will make them whole eventually.
    - version_five 4y ago
      Hopefully your attitude would come to light during the interview or reference check
      - staticman2 4y ago
        Good luck screening for someone dishonest enough to break the law, honest enough to go to jail for you like he promised, stupid enough to put your interests before his own, yet smart enough to rescue you from a foreign government.
        notch656a 4y ago
        Breaking the law does not make you dishonest. Being paid to do something illegal gets you most of the way to the jail sentence to actually doing it, most of the time. So after the boss narcs you out for not doing the deed you'd be looking at jail either way.
        staticman2 4y ago
        First, let's explore your claim breaking the law is not dishonest. If a billionaire like Bill Gates is stuffed in a violin case and the airport officials asks me how many people will be on my flight and I don't include Bill Gates on the flight itinerary am I not being dishonest? Second, your claim is if Bill Gates has me on retainer to break him out of jail and I don't break him out of jail I go to jail? This is a surprising claim. You think Bill Gates goes around putting criminal activities in writing if the goal is to avoid going to jail? You also seem to think Bill Gates wants to admit to the prosecutor that he illegally hired me to commit a crime, a seperate crime with additional jail time for Bill Gates in the hopes the prosecutor will go after me for revenge? If his goal is to stay out of jail he's going to switch goals to spending more time in jail to get back at me? And the prosecutor is going to with a straight face announce to the world he's pressing charges on me for promising to break Bill Gates out of jail but not breaking Bill Gates out of jail? This is something you think is likely to happen? One might almost think if Bill Gates wants to avoid jail the better strategy is hiring honest, law abiding people, avoid breaking the law, and avoid traveling to countries where you think the justice system is corrupt.
        notch656a 4y ago
        If breaking the law is dishonest because there are dishonest ways you can break the law, then speaking is dishonest because you can speak in ways where you tell a lie. This breaks down because merely speaking is not sufficient to show someone is lying, just as breaking the law is not sufficient to show someone is dishonest. For instance, I can speak without dishonesty by telling the whole truth and you can break the law without dishonesty (say someone finds a pot seed on their property, and plants it -- illegal but not dishonest). >Second, your claim is if Bill Gates has me on retainer to break him out of jail and I don't break him out of jail I go to jail? Absolutely. It's conspiracy and this is a pretty well understood legal concept. The agreement to do the deed is the spoken part of the conspiracy and the physical taking of the money for it is the overt act needed to convict you. note: this is for entertainment and not legal advice. I am not an attorney.
abudabi123 4y ago
There are higher levels to the Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's story. Had the media covered the story in the manner of Johnny Depp's trial or the drama comedy roast in, The Wolf of Wall Street, soon enough, we might know Jeffrey Epstein's sentencing length.
- jihadjihad 4y ago
  I'm not exactly sure of the connection here?

that guy is on another level : ) > splitting his time between Paris and Tokyo and logging roughly 150,000 miles (241 400 km) in airplanes per year even before his latest adventures, he lived a very, very intense life all over the world, including the Lebanon, which is an adventure on its own. It'd be harder to pull off for an average tech executive.

version_five 4y ago
If I'm ever a multi- billionaire, I will invest in a stand-by exfiltratiom team that is ready to get me out of whatever I get into and take me to a friendly place. If guys like Musk and Gates don't have this, their priorities are all wrong. I assume Peter Thiel does.
- staticman2 4y ago
  I'll gladly take your money to be on standby to exfiltrate you, good sir, and happily say "Sorry boss, can't be done" if you ever ask me to actually risk jail time for your privileged, billionnaire ass.
  - twelve40 4y ago
    well, Ghosn was successfully exfiltrated by his team, so it is possible! although his rescuers got busted, but let's hope he will make them whole eventually.
  - version_five 4y ago
    Hopefully your attitude would come to light during the interview or reference check
    - staticman2 4y ago
      Good luck screening for someone dishonest enough to break the law, honest enough to go to jail for you like he promised, stupid enough to put your interests before his own, yet smart enough to rescue you from a foreign government.
      - notch656a 4y ago
        Breaking the law does not make you dishonest. Being paid to do something illegal gets you most of the way to the jail sentence to actually doing it, most of the time. So after the boss narcs you out for not doing the deed you'd be looking at jail either way.
        staticman2 4y ago
        First, let's explore your claim breaking the law is not dishonest. If a billionaire like Bill Gates is stuffed in a violin case and the airport officials asks me how many people will be on my flight and I don't include Bill Gates on the flight itinerary am I not being dishonest? Second, your claim is if Bill Gates has me on retainer to break him out of jail and I don't break him out of jail I go to jail? This is a surprising claim. You think Bill Gates goes around putting criminal activities in writing if the goal is to avoid going to jail? You also seem to think Bill Gates wants to admit to the prosecutor that he illegally hired me to commit a crime, a seperate crime with additional jail time for Bill Gates in the hopes the prosecutor will go after me for revenge? If his goal is to stay out of jail he's going to switch goals to spending more time in jail to get back at me? And the prosecutor is going to with a straight face announce to the world he's pressing charges on me for promising to break Bill Gates out of jail but not breaking Bill Gates out of jail? This is something you think is likely to happen? One might almost think if Bill Gates wants to avoid jail the better strategy is hiring honest, law abiding people, avoid breaking the law, and avoid traveling to countries where you think the justice system is corrupt.
        notch656a 4y ago
        If breaking the law is dishonest because there are dishonest ways you can break the law, then speaking is dishonest because you can speak in ways where you tell a lie. This breaks down because merely speaking is not sufficient to show someone is lying, just as breaking the law is not sufficient to show someone is dishonest. For instance, I can speak without dishonesty by telling the whole truth and you can break the law without dishonesty (say someone finds a pot seed on their property, and plants it -- illegal but not dishonest). >Second, your claim is if Bill Gates has me on retainer to break him out of jail and I don't break him out of jail I go to jail? Absolutely. It's conspiracy and this is a pretty well understood legal concept. The agreement to do the deed is the spoken part of the conspiracy and the physical taking of the money for it is the overt act needed to convict you. note: this is for entertainment and not legal advice. I am not an attorney.

abudabi123 4y ago

There are higher levels to the Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's story. Had the media covered the story in the manner of Johnny Depp's trial or the drama comedy roast in, The Wolf of Wall Street, soon enough, we might know Jeffrey Epstein's sentencing length.

jihadjihad 4y ago
I'm not exactly sure of the connection here?