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What drama? I pointed out that they are State/CIA fronts for propaganda, and that would be taken into account when reading the news. This isn't drama, it's con

What drama? I pointed out that they are State/CIA fronts for propaganda, and that would be taken into account when reading the news. This isn't drama, it's context. As for this line "So when you say they are “literally” a front for the state department you are wrong." Their connections to State/CIA is well documented. This is hardly drama, it's context that would be helpful for people to know when judging information presented. This is basic critical thinking 101 stuff. I feel like you are arguing that we should ignore the history, years of deception, and trust their website.. Why?

smcl 4y ago
There's no drama, but people like the simple explanations of the world. USA: good, North Korea: bad. USA propaganda: justified, special, exceptional. non-US propaganda: suspect, biased, evil. So being confronted with the idea that they're simply a little bit blinkered (not totally brainwashed, just a little ignorant) and that history and current events involves more complexity and nuance causes some people a bit of discomfort.
- tptacek 4y ago
  North Korea is bad.
kasey_junk 4y ago
You said they are “literally” a front for the state department and that’s just not accurate. Even your own coverage points out that they were once connected to the CIA but that relationship had been severed long ago (when RFA was shuttered in the 50s, the new one is a 90s era creation) and there aren’t claims about the state department. The State department is not the CIA, like the usagm the CIA is an independent agency of the US government, not part of the State department. I’m just looking for you to be accurate. A statement like “RFA was a CIA backed operation at one time and it still is a US propaganda outlet” would be fine. Instead, your now edited reply to me said I “didn’t know what I was talking about” when I pointed out your inaccuracy.
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- imwillofficial 4y ago
  I can't say more, NDAs and all that. I encourage you to read up on the topic of interactions between the DoS and the Intel Community. Fascinating reading.

smcl 4y ago

There's no drama, but people like the simple explanations of the world. USA: good, North Korea: bad. USA propaganda: justified, special, exceptional. non-US propaganda: suspect, biased, evil. So being confronted with the idea that they're simply a little bit blinkered (not totally brainwashed, just a little ignorant) and that history and current events involves more complexity and nuance causes some people a bit of discomfort.

tptacek 4y ago
North Korea is bad.

kasey_junk 4y ago

You said they are “literally” a front for the state department and that’s just not accurate. Even your own coverage points out that they were once connected to the CIA but that relationship had been severed long ago (when RFA was shuttered in the 50s, the new one is a 90s era creation) and there aren’t claims about the state department. The State department is not the CIA, like the usagm the CIA is an independent agency of the US government, not part of the State department. I’m just looking for you to be accurate. A statement like “RFA was a CIA backed operation at one time and it still is a US propaganda outlet” would be fine. Instead, your now edited reply to me said I “didn’t know what I was talking about” when I pointed out your inaccuracy.

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imwillofficial 4y ago
I can't say more, NDAs and all that. I encourage you to read up on the topic of interactions between the DoS and the Intel Community. Fascinating reading.