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Plaid Layoffs
- amykhar 4y agoSo cold, announcing layoffs to employees this way. A blog post saying "yeah, if you work for us, you're about to get an email telling you if you still do or not"
- piinbinary 4y agoI'm assuming this blog post is a public copy of an internal email
- PhoenixReborn 4y agoUnfortunately, in a highly regulated environment like finance or healthcare this is the norm for opsec reasons. Can't have disgruntled laid-off employees taking revenge actions against the company or customers.
- thiscatis 4y agoExactly, and as a regulated company you get audited on your affected leavers process with proof of time stamps for access removal.
- cochne 4y agoWhy not just send the email first, so that people don't have to wait in suspense to see if they still have a job?
- playoff_burner 4y agoThe suspense lasted 1 minute. The "team update" and cut/no-cut emails went out pretty much simultaneously.
- salawat 4y agoWe're talking about Plaid here. The company that willfully violated every norm around credential handling, implemented fraudulent front-end lookalikes to harvest user credentials, and then used those to reap customer financial records in blatant violation of BSA, and again, 90% of the ethial mores of a responsible finance company. https://angeion-public.s3.amazonaws.com/www.PlaidSettlement.com/docs/Consolidated+Amended+Class+Action+Complaint+for+Damages+and+Declaratory+and+Equitable+Relief.pdf https://angeion-public.s3.amazonaws.com/www.PlaidSettlement.... Reached via: https://www.plaidsettlement.com/important-documents.php https://www.plaidsettlement.com/important-documents.php I will not, nor would I recommend anyone extend benefit of a doubt when it comes to this org in particular. While you are factially correct in the general case, I'd hate for people to leave with the idea that Plaid has ever concerned itself with compliance when there was a buck to be made or an inconvenient norm to be worked around unethically.
- dmak 4y agoI'm pretty sure the employees received noticed before it went public.
- usui 4y agoIf you have a lot of experience with seeing how layoffs go down in companies, you'll see that no one is ever satisfied with the way they are done. The reception of it is highly subjective. I personally would want to get an email telling me directly and with no bullshit involved. I don't want to listen to a CEO come up with some fake apology, and I also want to absorb the news in the confort of my own time, in my own personal space, instead of feeling like cattle being rushed from one point to the next. IMO there's barely any point trying to appease anyone, just do it, it's ugly, move on.
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- thiscatis 4y agoExactly. There are bad and worse and less bad ways but someone is always going to be pissed. You can’t soon layoffs to those affected as good news. Except for some who already got an offer somewhere else and just hit the jackpot.
- conductr 4y agoI've never been a part of something like this where the effected had not already heard about it from their direct manager prior to the official public conversations. Granted it might have only been a couple hours, but they've had some time and privacy to digest the reality ahead of the townhall style discussions & the email blast from the CEO. I'm sure it happens and there are plenty of reasons for it, but I've always seen it go down in a more humane/private way for the individuals. From outside, it's never easy to tell how it went down on the inside.
- darkwizard42 4y agoI'm not saying that isn't the best for the employee being laid off, but the news spreads SUPER fast. Someone has an unscheduled 1:1 with a manager and then a private meeting immediately after (with HR usually), a few other people see they have similar things that day, and news starts to spread. That causes panic and confusion across the company ANYWAY. I think as the parent said, there is no way that keeps all parties happy ... the employees, the leadership, the remaining folks, and now the public.
- Bluecobra 4y agoThe impression I got is that they offer a pretty generous severance package and I appreciate their transparency. If I were to apply for a job here during better times I would see this post to judge the company's character.
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- _JoRo 4y agoCurious what others think the primary reasons are for this? I'm thinking that it's possible that a majority of their workforce is still working remote, and if you don't turn off system access prior to termination then people might be more likely to do nefarious things (compared to if they were terminated in office?)
- james_pm 4y agoReferring to people as "Plaids" is dehumanizing. 260 talented people were let go.
- namdnay 4y agoIt’s the silly cutsey name they give to themselves, like metamates or googlers. So it makes sense to consider them “part of the family” until the end
- lxe 4y agoYes.. "themselves". Ugh...
- googlryas 4y agoMaybe they should have been called stripes because many stripes together compose aid. But that would be a bit weird naming themselves after one of their competitors.
- dmitriid 4y ago> It’s the silly cutsey name they give to themselves, like metamates or googlers. No on in their right minds are giving these names to themselves. It's the HR "we are all a big family" playbook since forever.
- namdnay 4y agoYes and no, I know “googler” and “noogler” appeared organically
- leviathant 4y agoI honestly don't know why there's so much resentment over this point in-thread here. I do understand that in the context of a layoff announcement, it's a little cold. I worked for a company called Weblinc, we called each other Weblincers - not because it was some cult, and there wasn't company "we're a big family" messaging, although there were many tightly knit social groups among colleagues that formed over the years and continue to exist outside of work. That said, when we productized the platform we'd built and rebranded as Workarea, no one made some tribalized adoption of that name. I hadn't thought of it much, but Workarean doesn't roll off the tongue, and becomes an unfortunate homonym, particularly in southeast Pennsylvania. I'm sometimes called a number of things that I also call myself: a Philadelphian, a Pennsylvanian, a musician, and currently, a commercetooler. It's not my entire personality, but I think it's a little sociopathic to think the company of people that you work with does not contribute in some way to your identity.
- erehweb 4y ago16 weeks of base pay - perhaps this is becoming industry standard for big company layoffs? (influenced by CA WARN act?) Interesting they are paying the cash equivalent of 6 months of healthcare, rather than just extending healthcare for 6 months.
- dehrmann 4y agoWARN Act is only 60 days, though.
- erehweb 4y agoWell sure. The 60 days acts as a lower bound. If it weren't there, then you'd see lower severance numbers.
- thiscatis 4y agoPerhaps group policies are annual with a true up / down later in the year and best to not renew and let them sort out their own policy?
- daggersandscars 4y agoIn the US, (most) employers are required to offer former employees continued coverage via the COBRA (https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/health-plans/cobra https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/health-plans/cobra) program. COBRA compliance is built in to corporate insurance policies. Extending healthcare coverage via another method would require extra costs on the employer's part. Giving former employees the cash equivalent allows them to use COBRA if desired or to find alternative coverage.
- spit2wind 4y agoI don't think this correct. My understanding is that COBRA is a federal act to allow former employees (who meet certain conditions) to keep the same healthcare plan they had under their former employer. This is important because it preserves the amounts paid into the deductible, as well as the coverage. COBRA, as far as I understand, is not offered by the employer. It is a federal safety net. The employer has no monetary obligation whatsoever, besides those ruled by contract and conscience, to give the departed employee anything. Zero, zip, zilch. They are only obligated to pay out for work performed and anything required by contract, such as unused PTO. Again, that's it. At least in my state, the only other obligation is the employer must submit to another agency to handle COBRA (should you elect) within 30 days and that agency has 14 days to contact you. Reading between the lines, this has at least one serious flaw. Suppose you're let go on the 15th of the month and your former employer chooses to not continue your coverage. You then only have coverage until the end of the month. That's approximately 15 days. However, because the employer isn't obligated to submit to the third party for 30 days and they're not obligated to submit paperwork to you for another 14 days, it's potentially 34 days before someone contacts you about setting up continued coverage, or 19 days after your coverage ended. If the former employer doesn't provide you the name or contact info for the third part, you have to cold-call potential agencies in hopes that 1) they're the agency handling you and 2) the employer has submitted to them so that they know point 1. Good luck, hope nothing bad happens to you while you figure this out! I mention this because your post suggested that employers were required to do more. As far as I know, they're not. It's my contention (and experience) that, because companies tend to be tight fisted and short sighted, it has high probably for them to do only the minimum and to force former employees into the nightmare scenario. COBRA is also hella expensive. For one individual, expect to pay $450-500. For a couple, at least $1000. PER MONTH. Otherwise, check the marketplace. Already paid your deductible and let go in the first quarter? Too bad if you can't afford COBRA. You have to restart your contributions to the deductible if you opt for a new plan on the marketplace. So, make sure you're setting aside appropriately in when money's coming in. Apologies for the rantyness. This has happened twice, once during 2020 and again during the current rounds of layoffs. It hits home, hard. I think it's important for people's safety to make sure these facts are known.
- thiscatis 4y agoI guess no annoying Woven by Plaid posts on LinkedIn for a while. Success to these affected people, one rule I always remembered is don’t do layoffs in December, so extra brutal.
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- breck 4y agoPlaid has brought us a lot closer to fast banking (nowhere NEAR as fast as newer blockchains, but at least they are making old school banking better). If you helped them make things better and are looking for meaningful work, we are hiring across a range of products: mostly for CancerDB.com, but also PLDB.com, LongBeach.pub, and more (https://pd.pub/ https://pd.pub/)
- Syntaf 4y ago4 months severance and accelerated equity grants, pretty solid package from Plaid.
- jacobmarble 4y agoVery generous, indeed. Good on you, Zach.
- scifibestfi 4y ago> approximately 260 talented Plaids "Plaids" This joins the list of Googlers, Xooglers, Nooglers, Amazonians, Tweeps, Krakenites, what else?
- kgwgk 4y agoThe references to “UK and Europe”/“UK or Europe” are funny.
- lagolinguini 4y agowhy?
- kgwgk 4y agoBecause the UK is in Europe. Makes as much sense as a Japanese company referring repeteadly to employees in New York and/or the United States.
- sroussey 4y agoThe UK and EU would be better? From a business perspective, Europe and EU are the same thing, and the UK is not part of the EU anymore.
- tpxl 4y ago> Europe and EU are the same thing Uwot. A significant chunk of Europe is not in the European Union.
- sroussey 4y agoThe American perspective is that that are. Many would hard pressed to say which were in the EU and which were not.
- rsj_hn 4y agoI'm pretty sure that most Americans don't know or care about what the EU is, but they've heard of the UK, Italy, Poland, etc., and would readily tell you that the UK (they would probably call it 'England') is in Europe and that Europe is a continent, not a bureaucracy. Foreign bureaucracies are just uninteresting to outsiders, whereas people go visit Rome, Venice, London, etc.
- monero-xmr 4y agoDear Floofernistas, This is the hardest thing I have ever done. The market changed - I thought we would make more money, now I think we will make less money. Therefore we have discovered that we don't need all of you. If you aren't needed, here is some money. I hope this is enough money that the internet isn't too mad at me. Remaining Floofernistas, please be kind to the ex-Floofernistas, and help them. Again, I am sad. Goodbye
- dougmwne 4y agoAnd BTW, I take full responsibility for everything, which means nothing.
- hinkley 4y agoNarcissists think the worst punishment in the world is having to admit they were wrong about something. Not cleaning up their messes, of course. That’s still on everybody else. They’re too busy contending with this harsh reality of not being right all the time. Which means if anyone says they take full responsibility, they’re either saying “I’m a big fat narcissist” or that they imprinted on narcissists, so all of their mentors were.
- bobmaxup 4y ago> Which means if anyone says they take full responsibility, they’re either saying “I’m a big fat narcissist” or that they imprinted on narcissists, so all of their mentors were. Kind of a stretch, no?
- hinkley 4y agoGrandparent talks about how taking responsibility means nothing. That’s what I was referring to. When’s the last time you saw someone actually take responsibility? When it’s a teen pregnancy or injuring a pedestrian, we know what “taking responsibility” means. For layoffs there are no actions, no alteration of life paths. Even the money for severance really comes out of someone else’s pockets. It means nothing for the person saying it. Everyone else suffers the consequences, not the speaker. Claiming you’re to blame is the only penance. That only makes sense to people who won’t normally do that. Which is people who think in narcissistic personality traits are normal. IE narcissists and people they groomed.
- lxe 4y agoWhat delusional playbook does every tech leader get the idea to refer to their employees by cringey names like "Plaids" or "Metamates" in serious memos like this? Imagine if your physician did this... "Hey there KaiserPermanientoid! You have cancer!"
- somehnacct3757 4y agoIt's in the Kool-aid recipe
- kaesar14 4y agoYou're a customer in that case, not an employee?
- woeirua 4y agoIt's all part of the cult of personality. "We're all a family." Remind me, when was the last time your father just cut out half of the family?
- Swizec 4y agoMy family cut out the underperforming father when I was younger. Does that count?
- notpachet 4y agoIt happens.
- triyambakam 4y agoAnd it's considered dysfunctional or abusive
- chrsig 4y agoMore often than you'd think. The best retort to "We're all a family" is "You obviously haven't met my family, or you wouldn't be saying that."
- matsemann 4y ago> For Plaids in the UK and Europe, you will receive an email outlining how the process will work in accordance with your local employment laws. My company also did layoffs recently. I'm quite happy about how it works here in the EU, can't just fire people on the spot. It's a whole process where you need to map out what roles you need going forward, and then which people should fill those roles, so can't just at random fire people. In our process those in danger of being let go had talks with management and got help from our union to make sure everything was done by the book.
- peanuty1 4y agoI think I would much prefer the American policy of getting 4 mos of severance and accelerated vesting.
- cosmotic 4y ago"team update" sure is an optimistic spin
- boringg 4y agoI get that layoffs seriously are terrible but a lot of these tech companies are providing some pretty seriously nice exit packages. I fail to understand the amount of acid in the comment thread? Layoffs suck, corporate speak is always cringey. What would people want as alternatives outside perfectly executed business plans that don't have layoffs? Handheld individual exit goodbye packages? Im seriously asking for legit solutions.
- nine_zeros 4y ago> Im seriously asking for legit solutions. A few months of director+ level pay cut before layoffs. A few C-level folks taking pay and stock cut to retain employees before layoffs. When layoffs come, fire the bad decision makers before rank and file.
- cortesoft 4y agoThey are laying off 260 employees. Lets say they average $100k in salary. The rule is generally that the cost to a company is 1.4x the salary, so $140,000 per employee. That is $36.4 million dollars. At a place like Plaid, I am guessing even cutting C-level salaries to zero wouldn't put much of a dent in that amount... and you still need someone to lead the ship.
- stu2b50 4y agoThat wouldn’t accomplish anything but symbolically (which some companies have done, eg Chesky reducing his salary to 0 during the AirBnB layoffs). In the end director+ level comp is a drop in the bucket to the bottom line. It buys no time. Always firing the CEO when they make bets that don’t turn out just causes corporate stagnation since executives will always take the safe option if those are the incentives.
- time_to_smile 4y ago> perfectly executed business plans that don't have layoffs? Plaid was actively recruiting 2 weeks ago. In spring I (and many other people) knew these types of layoffs where coming to tech this fall, the current economic situation was not some unforeseeable event. Nobody in their right mind thought the early pandemic rapid growth was healthy or sustainable. Growth for growth's sake has always been a ridiculous strategy. This isn't a case of "less than perfect" business plans, this is people ignoring every macro economic indicator and running the ship full steam a head when this is clearly reckless behavior. The frustration is because this reckless behavior always has consequences for someone else, which is why it continues.
- andersonmvd 4y ago> Macroeconomic conditions have changed substantially this year. Despite being well-diversified across every category of financial services, we are seeing customers across the industry experiencing slower-than-expected growth. sry for the stupid question, but does anyone have a good breakdown/video/article/explanation on the market change? I have some idea, but I'm not a pro.
- baandam 4y agoZoom this chart in from about 2016 to now. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS The tide of capital is going way out after being at high tide for a very long time.
- lovich 4y agoInterest rates were increased by the federal reserve to ultimately try to increase unemployment to hopefully decrease inflation. This is working by increasing the cost of capital
- nathanaldensr 4y agoI would characterize it as "this is working to end almost two decades of free debt grift."
- lovich 4y agoYou could, but that would be ignoring the federal reserves own statements about why they are doing this[1]. It’s not a conspiracy to think they are trying to raise the unemployment rate, they’ve been very open about it [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fed-interest-rate-hikes-unemployment-increase-layoffs-inflation/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fed-interest-rate-hikes-unemplo...
- cowgoesmoo 4y agoI highly recommend this video for a deeper understanding of macroeconomic trends and the role of central banks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0bXAIuk0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0bXAIuk0
- bluehatbrit 4y agoLay-offs still seem to be happening left right and centre as we get closer to Christmas. In my experience (UK), recruitment grinds to a halt from around the 20th until the New Years. Anyone in a more saturated job market who would usually struggle a bit to find something is going to be in for a really sour Christmas. I don't suppose there's much that can be done, without possibly making the situation worse, but the timing really does suck for those impacted.
- Calvin02 4y agoI know this feels trite but do other industries do a better job of messaging layoffs? I was laid off from a non-tech company in 2006-2007. There was no message from the CEO, no public admission of fault, etc. We knew the layoffs were coming. On the Friday of the layoff, my manager came around and took me to the HR office. I stood in line with others to sign some paperwork. I was then escorted back to my desk to collect my things and walked outside. My commute was about 1.5 hr and had I known, I wouldn't even have bothered showing up. The company laid off about 15% of its workforce. There wasn't any sign of contrition on part of the CEO. Heck even the HR people didn't seem to care. Perhaps our standard of how to do these have changed?
- bombcar 4y agoTech companies are valued on a house of cards (many of them) and so the investors are spooked by layoffs, so the CEO feels they need to say something. This isn't present in many other companies, though the largest ones will still say something to not spook the shareholders. Layoffs from small companies are rarely heard of outside the company, but we hear about small tech companies because of the investor aspect.
- stu2b50 4y agoWe hear about small tech companies because this is hacker news, the discussion forum owned by Y-combinator the tech incubator… Also, small tech companies have >1b valuations, however paper thin, which is fairly unique.
- trollied 4y agoWhen I worked for Lucent many moons ago, they hired an external consultant to do the layoffs. Word soon got round that if you got a desk call from a specific meeting room it’d be bad news, from 2 other meeting rooms it’d be good news. I volunteered, so it was different for me, but the least they could have done was get direct management (in conjunction with HR) to do it. The working relationships & office culture were good enough to do it. I guess it’s just one of those things that somebody will always complain about. Meta got a good kicking for laying people off, but that package they gave was amazing, for example.
- glonq 4y agoNot that any time is a good time to be laid off, but being this close to Christmas sucks worse. It'll make shopping and travel and family plans a little more uncomfortable.
- dehrmann 4y agoYeah, you're not really supposed to do layoffs between Nov 15 and January. Right now (Dec 7) is a bit of a dick move because it's almost impossible to get an on-site scheduled this month because people will be out.
- glonq 4y agolaid off + paid off = Plaid off
- bogomipz 4y ago>"I made the hard decision to reduce the size of our team, and in doing so, to say goodbye to approximately 260 talented Plaids." It's fascinating to me that this individual at once acknowledges he made a hard decision and then couches that very statement in euphemisms and weasel-wording. You are not "saying goodbye", you are laying people off. Full stop. There also seems to be this new corporate-weasel playbook where you don't refer to the people being laid-off as people but instead by some cringe-worthy corporate branding of employees. In this brave new playbook it's not people that are being laid off but rather "Plaids", "Tweeps", "Elasticians" and "Stripes" I think this intentional. It seems as this is really an attempt to build corporate-culture at the same time you are showing the people who got to keep their jobs just how tenuous and capricious being an employee there really is. The other notable feature of this new weasel-playbook seems to be that the CEO always "takes responsibility" but yet can not be responsible for actually calling the thing that they're accepting responsibility for what it really is. Nobody was let go they were simply "impacted." And there were no layoffs just "goodbyes being said." If the CEO can't speak the hard unvarnished truth during the bad times, I would question their capacity for doing so during the good times. I hope that message is not being lost on those remaining "Plaids."
- bckygldstn 4y agoA while ago a built a generator for acquisition announcements [1]. Might be time to do one for heartfelt layoff announcements. [1] https://www.ajnisbet.com/blog/this-startup-acquisition-announcement-does-not-exist https://www.ajnisbet.com/blog/this-startup-acquisition-annou...
- 1-12-2022-hn 4y agoHey, this is great. Really like the idea of training an AI model for this. I did somethin similar, although much simpler, without AI, for layoffs :-) https://www.corporatefluff.com https://www.corporatefluff.com Based on just a dozen layoff announcements from real world companies, randomly ("manually") generated announcements. It's great to find someone being iritated by the same bland corporate speak and answering it with similar kind of dry humor : - )
- Waterluvian 4y agoIs there a resource anywhere that's keeping track of this season's layoffs?
- seabass 4y agohttps://layoffs.fyi/ https://layoffs.fyi/
- Waterluvian 4y agoThanks! Wow, it began closer to May. I honestly perceived it as being a September thing.
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- raydiatian 4y agoAt least they get to say they weren’t just laid off. The my were plaid off.
- richard___ 4y agoTwitter started an avalanche. So obvious.
- bombcar 4y agoThese tech company layoffs were already in full-swing before Twitter's hit. https://tech.co/news/tech-companies-layoffs https://tech.co/news/tech-companies-layoffs according to this Better.com started all the way back in 2021 with a "layoff via Zoom call" which I remember people complaining about. At least these are better.
- playoff_burner 4y agoNot in fintech. The big Stripe layoff (14%) was before Twitter. I think Twitter gets a lot more credit than it deserves for the layoff wave, given that companies had already put effort into modeling the ROI of their labor. The idea that you could do significant workforce reduction and not have the product completely collapse overnight isn't new: it's obvious.
- birdyrooster 4y agoLmfao calling them Plaids as you lay them off is so hilariously tone deaf it makes sense why it’s better to just call your employees people.
- borbulon 4y agoChatGPT for layoff announcements > generate a notice that approximately 4000 people are going to be laid off Dear valued employees, It is with great regret that we must inform you that our company will be downsizing and approximately 4000 employees will be laid off. This decision was not made lightly, but it has become necessary in order to keep our company financially viable. We understand that this news may be difficult to hear and we are committed to helping those affected by this change transition to new employment. We will be providing severance packages and outplacement services to assist in this process. Please know that this decision in no way reflects on the hard work and dedication of our employees. We are grateful for the contributions that each and every one of you has made to our company. Thank you for your understanding and support during this difficult time. Sincerely, [Your Name] [Your Title]
- function_seven 4y agoHoly shit the bot does a great job at this. Ironically, I now get to fire a couple Communications Specialists and tell the HR team to just use the bot. Thanks, you just unlocked value.
- hef19898 4y agoOk, so we reached the point where AI can replace the team writing press announcments. Now make it able to provide texts that stand up to legal scrutiny, then...
- dehrmann 4y agoMaybe Twitter's going to replace its comms team with ChatGPT.
- newfonewhodis 4y ago> Immigration. For those on a work visa, we have dedicated immigration counsel that you will have access to for consultation and support. While this looks good, in practice all this means is access to paralegals/assistants who send canned emails with standard options. There is no "support".
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- dehrmann 4y agoThe equity grant part is nice, but it's also tricky. For RSUs, it's a tax liability for an illiquid asset at a time when you have less/no income. For options, it gives you the option to hand money over to the company, making layoffs a fundraising round. And this is in a company that's struggling and you're not inclined to believe in right now.
- clintonb 4y ago> For RSUs, it's a tax liability for an illiquid asset at a time when you have less/no income. There is no tax liability if the RSUs are double-trigger. In such cases the tax liability isn't incurred until IPO (first trigger) and time delay (second trigger).
- playoff_burner 4y agoThe RSUs are double-trigger. The tax liability doesn't trigger until they become liquid. (source: I got laid off at 4:02 am this morning.)
- cubecul 4y agoFrankly, you may be unsatisfied with the wording of the post, but there are no better alternatives, and nobody in these comments would have done any better.
- nunez 4y agoWait, if they're paying the cash equivalent of six-months of healthcare (in the US), on average, how many months of healthcare does that translate to on the open market with the same deductibles/coverage/oop max?
- coffeebeqn 4y agoIf you’re ok with a bronze/silver in a state with decent plans then possibly 12 months or more
- dewfaced 4y agoI have always dreaded when I used an app that needed to confirm my bank with and it used Plaid to do it.
- greatgib 4y agoWhat I find to be the most asshole thing with this layoff and the other ones in recent days is that, they pretend to care about the people that are discarded but it is really an awful thing to fire them just before Christmas and end of year celebrations. Except in exceptional cases, that is not this one, waiting for the beginning of January will not change things so much for the business but it would avoid depression of employee by having celebration ruined for the employee and probably his whole family! Why is it done like that and now? Probably because they want to be able to announce "good financial news" for the year 2023 or the new quarter...
- tdeck 4y agoEveryone reacts differently to these things and has a different life situation which I don't mean to minimize. But speaking for myself I would't be so depressed about getting 4 months severance while not having do do any work or be oncall over the holidays. That severance and accelerated vesting is also going to be on the books for the next couple of quarters regardless.
- 1-12-2022-hn 4y agohttps://www.corporatefluff.com/ https://www.corporatefluff.com/