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I have noticed that a lot of tech recruiters are conventionally attractive women.

by dijit 4y ago

ikiris 4y ago
- jollofricepeas 4y ago
  Whoa there buddy. Your statement is both downright offensive and untrue. 1. Great recruiters work long hours around others’ schedules 2. Recruiters deal with tons of rejection that most developers don’t have the stomach for 3. Female recruiters are often overworked, harassed, mansplained to and disrespected in our industry as they deal with fragile male egos, imposter syndrome, interview anxiety, etc To build a real career as a realtor or recruiter requires perseverance in the face of rejection, work and networking skills. They are worthy of our respect.
  - csomar 4y ago
    Are you sure we are getting contacted by the same recruiters? I'm pretty sure most recruiters are not like that; and we would be better without them. Recruiters exists because companies wants to save on $$ (it would make more sense to let developers do the recruiting, and not someone with no technical knowledge). Of course, this has the opposite result which is why the hiring market is such a sh*t-show.
    - Consultant32452 4y ago
      I'm a whore and the recruiters are my pimps. They only like me because the johns hire me. The world makes more sense through that lens.
      - dijit 4y ago
        This whole thread is shameful. Recruiters do a valuable job; I don't pity them and I do not envy them. The number of bad recruiters I've interacted with are high, but that's largely selection bias: the ones that reach me are not paying attention enough to realise that I'm not going to move. I've worked closely with recruiters and their job is tiring and thankless; in the end though they can go home peacefully and it's easier to plan their day. I can't speak to the reason I noticed this phenomena (of conventionally attractive women being overrepresented in recruiting), but I could believe that it's possible that men are more likely to respond to pretty women reaching out to them with kind words and making them feel wanted and valued; thus conventionally attractive women tend to be more successful in the industry, and thus we sort of have some kind of survivorship bias at play. I don't know if that's true, but I could believe it quite comfortably.
        Consultant32452 4y ago
        Pimps serve a purpose. Sometimes they are good and hook me up with johns so I make good money. Sometimes they protect me from bad johns. Sometimes they abuse me by sending me to johns they know will hurt me and then take all the money.
      - nigerianbrince 4y ago
        I know it's against the guidelines but: bruh
  - MikePlacid 4y ago
    My son worked as a summer job at a small recruiting setup in Silicon Valley. He was actually doing the interviews. - Oh, but doesn't it require a lot of technical knowledge? - Not exactly, we are just checking a) if he has at least 5 years of experience, b) that he graduated from one of the top 10 schools. >perseverance in the face of rejection The only rejection this company was facing was when their software pipeline for dumping resumes at Google and others was broken for a week. So no money was incoming. - Oh, I can look at it if they want. - See, this thing is written by a friend of the owner. They live at the same dorm room, actually. So it's politically incorrect for me to even suggest that something is wrong. And so they persevered, indeed.
  - throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
Because sex sells. Where you not aware of this by now? This has been proven to death by now. And by sex I don't mean the copulation act, but just seeing very handsome and attractive people that trigger your primal mating desires, works in advertising when trying to convince people to buy something from you or give you something (a product, a service, an idea, their time, their money, their attention, their assistance, etc.) It's why many recruiters, especially in tech, tend to be the attractive female type as it works well enough on the majority male demographic this career attracts. And why most successful sales people, and to a large degree, managers who managed to climb 'the ladder', tend to be on the tall, athletic, attractive side. This is completely anecdotal, but I've never ever seen conventionally short males in upper management in any company I worked at so far. It's as if it was a 'jocks club' and you needed the right physique to join.
- karmakurtisaani 4y ago
  A funny observation: I've had the best response rate and relationships with recruiters who are regular looking men. The attractive female recruiters mostly just send a message with the job info, but completely bail when you ask for a salary range and remote work policy. Maybe they get such a large number of replies that they don't need to bother with the ones asking difficult questions.
- texasbigdata 4y ago
  There was an academic paper about this recently; we’re aware of “Asian” as a bias but not “physically attractive” and disproportionately favor the more pleasing individuals.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    What's the "Asian" bias? That sounds like an US thing. It it the stereotype that Asians are good at STEM?

I have noticed that a lot of tech recruiters are conventionally attractive women.

by dijit 4y ago

I have noticed that a lot of tech recruiters are conventionally attractive women.

ikiris 4y ago

jollofricepeas 4y ago
Whoa there buddy. Your statement is both downright offensive and untrue. 1. Great recruiters work long hours around others’ schedules 2. Recruiters deal with tons of rejection that most developers don’t have the stomach for 3. Female recruiters are often overworked, harassed, mansplained to and disrespected in our industry as they deal with fragile male egos, imposter syndrome, interview anxiety, etc To build a real career as a realtor or recruiter requires perseverance in the face of rejection, work and networking skills. They are worthy of our respect.
- csomar 4y ago
  Are you sure we are getting contacted by the same recruiters? I'm pretty sure most recruiters are not like that; and we would be better without them. Recruiters exists because companies wants to save on $$ (it would make more sense to let developers do the recruiting, and not someone with no technical knowledge). Of course, this has the opposite result which is why the hiring market is such a sh*t-show.
  - Consultant32452 4y ago
    I'm a whore and the recruiters are my pimps. They only like me because the johns hire me. The world makes more sense through that lens.
    - dijit 4y ago
      This whole thread is shameful. Recruiters do a valuable job; I don't pity them and I do not envy them. The number of bad recruiters I've interacted with are high, but that's largely selection bias: the ones that reach me are not paying attention enough to realise that I'm not going to move. I've worked closely with recruiters and their job is tiring and thankless; in the end though they can go home peacefully and it's easier to plan their day. I can't speak to the reason I noticed this phenomena (of conventionally attractive women being overrepresented in recruiting), but I could believe that it's possible that men are more likely to respond to pretty women reaching out to them with kind words and making them feel wanted and valued; thus conventionally attractive women tend to be more successful in the industry, and thus we sort of have some kind of survivorship bias at play. I don't know if that's true, but I could believe it quite comfortably.
      - Consultant32452 4y ago
        Pimps serve a purpose. Sometimes they are good and hook me up with johns so I make good money. Sometimes they protect me from bad johns. Sometimes they abuse me by sending me to johns they know will hurt me and then take all the money.
    - nigerianbrince 4y ago
      I know it's against the guidelines but: bruh
- MikePlacid 4y ago
  My son worked as a summer job at a small recruiting setup in Silicon Valley. He was actually doing the interviews. - Oh, but doesn't it require a lot of technical knowledge? - Not exactly, we are just checking a) if he has at least 5 years of experience, b) that he graduated from one of the top 10 schools. >perseverance in the face of rejection The only rejection this company was facing was when their software pipeline for dumping resumes at Google and others was broken for a week. So no money was incoming. - Oh, I can look at it if they want. - See, this thing is written by a friend of the owner. They live at the same dorm room, actually. So it's politically incorrect for me to even suggest that something is wrong. And so they persevered, indeed.
- throwaway0x7E6 4y ago

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

Because sex sells. Where you not aware of this by now? This has been proven to death by now. And by sex I don't mean the copulation act, but just seeing very handsome and attractive people that trigger your primal mating desires, works in advertising when trying to convince people to buy something from you or give you something (a product, a service, an idea, their time, their money, their attention, their assistance, etc.) It's why many recruiters, especially in tech, tend to be the attractive female type as it works well enough on the majority male demographic this career attracts. And why most successful sales people, and to a large degree, managers who managed to climb 'the ladder', tend to be on the tall, athletic, attractive side. This is completely anecdotal, but I've never ever seen conventionally short males in upper management in any company I worked at so far. It's as if it was a 'jocks club' and you needed the right physique to join.

karmakurtisaani 4y ago
A funny observation: I've had the best response rate and relationships with recruiters who are regular looking men. The attractive female recruiters mostly just send a message with the job info, but completely bail when you ask for a salary range and remote work policy. Maybe they get such a large number of replies that they don't need to bother with the ones asking difficult questions.
texasbigdata 4y ago
There was an academic paper about this recently; we’re aware of “Asian” as a bias but not “physically attractive” and disproportionately favor the more pleasing individuals.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  What's the "Asian" bias? That sounds like an US thing. It it the stereotype that Asians are good at STEM?