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You are kind of underestimating, or not caring, about potential use cases ChatGPT will solve for as it continues growing in capabilities. There is a reason ever

You are kind of underestimating, or not caring, about potential use cases ChatGPT will solve for as it continues growing in capabilities. There is a reason everyone is excited about it.

bachmeier 4y ago
> potential use cases ChatGPT will solve for as it continues growing in capabilities I think that's the point. "Maybe it doesn't do anything useful yet, but once we solve the hard problems, it will." Unfortunately, in the AI world, they seldom solve the hard problems - generating hype is enough. Until ChatGPT has some way to determine what's correct and what's not, which is the hard problem, I don't find it interesting.
- la64710 4y ago
  Well it does save time by generating code snippets. At least worth $5. I am saying this as someone who used it. Caveat - don’t blindly use the code snippet. Test it first!
  - bachmeier 4y ago
    To me, the hard problem is producing code snippets that are correct. This would be an example of something that's useful (unlike ChatGPT) and kind of cool but it still doesn't solve the hard problem.
    - maximus-decimus 4y ago
      Luke on LTT talked on their WAN show about ChatGPT being able to write a program that merges two Excel sheets together, so it is capable of writing correct code that's useful.
- agolio 4y ago
  > Unfortunately, in the AI world, they seldom solve the hard problems - generating hype is enough. This is untrue on so many levels. You can probably guess who wrote the rest of my comment. There are many examples of AI being used to improve various aspects of our lives. For instance, AI is being used in healthcare to improve the accuracy of diagnoses and to develop new treatments for diseases. In the field of transportation, AI is being used to develop self-driving cars and trucks that can improve safety and efficiency on the roads. In the retail industry, AI is being used to personalize customer experiences and improve the accuracy of inventory management. Additionally, AI is being used in finance to improve the accuracy of credit scoring and fraud detection.
  - bachmeier 4y ago
    I don't see that this refutes my point. You've posted something that looks correct and that someone that doesn't know better would think is correct but has a high probability of being incorrect. I do not view that as useful. Edit: HN isn't going to let me respond any further. I'm not talking about ML not being useful. That comment was specific to ChatGPT. The hype is always centered on solving hard problems like vehicles that can drive themselves in arbitrary conditions.
    - agolio 4y ago
      Improved medical diagnoses are useful. Cars that drive themselves are useful. Improved inventory tracking is useful. Improved fraud detection is useful. Those are a very very minor subset of the vast array of real-world AI use cases. Edit to respond to your edit :) Yes ChatGPT is surely overhyped, same as GANs were five years ago, but these things have a whole ton of co-incidencing real-world applications that aren't hyped which we don't see as much. For example facial recognition is so good now that governments are performing mass surveillance with it. Now I admit, this is not in anyone here's opinion a good change. But it is a very real very existing phenomena. BTW - hope my comment did not come across too confrontational. Just need to defend my AI colleagues ;) --- Edit to add one more tangental thought that crossed my mind There's a temptation amongst skeptics to say that technology never lives up to the hype - we were told in the 70s robots would replace us, etc., But I think the reason we feel like it never lives up to the hype is because there is a moving target effect taking place. The present will never feel "sci-fi" because as soon as technology comes, the "sci-fi" target moves ahead. But when you look objectively at the technology around us, there are so many absolutely incredible developments in the last 10-20 years. They just have become normalised.
- jeremyjh 4y ago
  It seems a little early to conclude this. I think it is possible there will be a great problem fit for GPT that already exists but hasn't been discovered yet, and will be discovered soon due to ChatGPT. For example maybe we can use it to destroy Twitter.
  - rchaud 4y ago
    Twitter is already at that point. It's becoming a new channel for 'tech influeners' desperate to shill the latest trend, which right now is AI-generated images and text
- hellisothers 4y ago
  I don’t have strong feelings either way but saying you’re not interested until it can know what is correct or not seems like moving the goalposts.
antegamisou 4y ago
> There is a reason everyone is excited about it. For the time being, it's just another item added to the average tech grifter's inventory.

You are kind of underestimating, or not caring, about potential use cases ChatGPT will solve for as it continues growing in capabilities. There is a reason everyone is excited about it.

bachmeier 4y ago

> potential use cases ChatGPT will solve for as it continues growing in capabilities I think that's the point. "Maybe it doesn't do anything useful yet, but once we solve the hard problems, it will." Unfortunately, in the AI world, they seldom solve the hard problems - generating hype is enough. Until ChatGPT has some way to determine what's correct and what's not, which is the hard problem, I don't find it interesting.

la64710 4y ago
Well it does save time by generating code snippets. At least worth $5. I am saying this as someone who used it. Caveat - don’t blindly use the code snippet. Test it first!
- bachmeier 4y ago
  To me, the hard problem is producing code snippets that are correct. This would be an example of something that's useful (unlike ChatGPT) and kind of cool but it still doesn't solve the hard problem.
  - maximus-decimus 4y ago
    Luke on LTT talked on their WAN show about ChatGPT being able to write a program that merges two Excel sheets together, so it is capable of writing correct code that's useful.
agolio 4y ago
> Unfortunately, in the AI world, they seldom solve the hard problems - generating hype is enough. This is untrue on so many levels. You can probably guess who wrote the rest of my comment. There are many examples of AI being used to improve various aspects of our lives. For instance, AI is being used in healthcare to improve the accuracy of diagnoses and to develop new treatments for diseases. In the field of transportation, AI is being used to develop self-driving cars and trucks that can improve safety and efficiency on the roads. In the retail industry, AI is being used to personalize customer experiences and improve the accuracy of inventory management. Additionally, AI is being used in finance to improve the accuracy of credit scoring and fraud detection.
- bachmeier 4y ago
  I don't see that this refutes my point. You've posted something that looks correct and that someone that doesn't know better would think is correct but has a high probability of being incorrect. I do not view that as useful. Edit: HN isn't going to let me respond any further. I'm not talking about ML not being useful. That comment was specific to ChatGPT. The hype is always centered on solving hard problems like vehicles that can drive themselves in arbitrary conditions.
  - agolio 4y ago
    Improved medical diagnoses are useful. Cars that drive themselves are useful. Improved inventory tracking is useful. Improved fraud detection is useful. Those are a very very minor subset of the vast array of real-world AI use cases. Edit to respond to your edit :) Yes ChatGPT is surely overhyped, same as GANs were five years ago, but these things have a whole ton of co-incidencing real-world applications that aren't hyped which we don't see as much. For example facial recognition is so good now that governments are performing mass surveillance with it. Now I admit, this is not in anyone here's opinion a good change. But it is a very real very existing phenomena. BTW - hope my comment did not come across too confrontational. Just need to defend my AI colleagues ;) --- Edit to add one more tangental thought that crossed my mind There's a temptation amongst skeptics to say that technology never lives up to the hype - we were told in the 70s robots would replace us, etc., But I think the reason we feel like it never lives up to the hype is because there is a moving target effect taking place. The present will never feel "sci-fi" because as soon as technology comes, the "sci-fi" target moves ahead. But when you look objectively at the technology around us, there are so many absolutely incredible developments in the last 10-20 years. They just have become normalised.
jeremyjh 4y ago
It seems a little early to conclude this. I think it is possible there will be a great problem fit for GPT that already exists but hasn't been discovered yet, and will be discovered soon due to ChatGPT. For example maybe we can use it to destroy Twitter.
- rchaud 4y ago
  Twitter is already at that point. It's becoming a new channel for 'tech influeners' desperate to shill the latest trend, which right now is AI-generated images and text
hellisothers 4y ago
I don’t have strong feelings either way but saying you’re not interested until it can know what is correct or not seems like moving the goalposts.

antegamisou 4y ago

> There is a reason everyone is excited about it. For the time being, it's just another item added to the average tech grifter's inventory.