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speaking from a distance, mozilla has long struck me as one of these parasitized open source orgs like wikimedia, famous for one piece of software or project bu

speaking from a distance, mozilla has long struck me as one of these parasitized open source orgs like wikimedia, famous for one piece of software or project but stuffed to the brim with bureaucratic careerists who contribute nothing

SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago
I dunno, when I started as a junior dev I really appreciated mozillas js guides and other webdev related documentation. They just seemed to have top notch stuff that made me respect the foundation, since they didn’t need to go out of their way to produce such a communally helpful thing. I’m sure to a webdev that already had a ton of experience they might’ve thought it was a waste of their donation money or whatever but I personally got a lot of benefit
- musicale 4y ago
  The MDN documentation is great actually.
  - solarkraft 4y ago
    1 great thing for 30 terrible ones.
    - SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago
      I dunno, like I said the docs were helpful to me when I was new, but probably less so to someone who never needed a reference in the first place. I can imagine maybe I just am not the people who benefit strongly for 30 “terrible” things. Like this ocr stuff doesn’t benefit me at all, but you know, I bet it’ll be hugely useful to some people. Idk this position just seems a little narrow minded and negative nancying.
      - danielheath 4y ago
        Nup, I still use MDN constantly after 10+ years of regular JS work.
- notatoad 4y ago
  MDN is still the gold standard for web docs, but my understanding is that Mozilla fired most of the people responsible for it [1] and it's currently run as a joint project with funding from microsoft, google, and various other companies who contribute to it. the list of MDN advisory board members [2] is a good reference for what companies are actually leading MDN these days [1] https://www.fastcompany.com/90539632/mozilla-vows-mdn-isnt-going-anywhere-as-layoffs-cause-panic-among-developers https://www.fastcompany.com/90539632/mozilla-vows-mdn-isnt-g... [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/MDN_Product_Advisory_Board https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/MDN_Product_Adv...
matthewmacleod 4y ago
This is probably a direct result of the toxic polemic that invades every article published about Firefox.

SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago

I dunno, when I started as a junior dev I really appreciated mozillas js guides and other webdev related documentation. They just seemed to have top notch stuff that made me respect the foundation, since they didn’t need to go out of their way to produce such a communally helpful thing. I’m sure to a webdev that already had a ton of experience they might’ve thought it was a waste of their donation money or whatever but I personally got a lot of benefit

musicale 4y ago
The MDN documentation is great actually.
- solarkraft 4y ago
  1 great thing for 30 terrible ones.
  - SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago
    I dunno, like I said the docs were helpful to me when I was new, but probably less so to someone who never needed a reference in the first place. I can imagine maybe I just am not the people who benefit strongly for 30 “terrible” things. Like this ocr stuff doesn’t benefit me at all, but you know, I bet it’ll be hugely useful to some people. Idk this position just seems a little narrow minded and negative nancying.
    - danielheath 4y ago
      Nup, I still use MDN constantly after 10+ years of regular JS work.
notatoad 4y ago
MDN is still the gold standard for web docs, but my understanding is that Mozilla fired most of the people responsible for it [1] and it's currently run as a joint project with funding from microsoft, google, and various other companies who contribute to it. the list of MDN advisory board members [2] is a good reference for what companies are actually leading MDN these days [1] https://www.fastcompany.com/90539632/mozilla-vows-mdn-isnt-going-anywhere-as-layoffs-cause-panic-among-developers https://www.fastcompany.com/90539632/mozilla-vows-mdn-isnt-g... [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/MDN_Product_Advisory_Board https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MDN/MDN_Product_Adv...

matthewmacleod 4y ago

This is probably a direct result of the toxic polemic that invades every article published about Firefox.