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You have me laughing my ass off right now. I know one person who is in involuntary detox currently (then onto court ordered rehab). The King County Municipal Co

You have me laughing my ass off right now. I know one person who is in involuntary detox currently (then onto court ordered rehab). The King County Municipal Court is dishing these out left and right, but that still doesn't prevent relapse 6 months after getting out of rehab. Then we get all the suburbs dumping their druggies in Pioneer Square and Chinatown. It's a neverending pipeline of addicts the Eastside and south end is dumping on us. We need to start tracking all non-city LEOs entering Seattle and turn them around if they are giving courtesy rides. Called 911 on one from Bothell yesterday and started filming the occupant and cop. They raced off right quick but I still filed a complaint with Bothell PD.

tomcam 4y ago
> Then we get all the suburbs dumping their druggies in Pioneer Square and Chinatown. I How is that happening?
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  Metro or Sound Transit mostly. The east side makes itself inhospitable to porch pirating and public drug use/selling, so the problems wind up in Seattle where the police do much less in those areas.
  - Akronymus 4y ago
    So, how is it easr sides fault? Because the comments seem to be implying it to be.
    - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
      I’m a fan of the way the east side does things, none of their voters will fault the police for being too strict on enforcement of quality of life issues. But Seattle voters are different, so this is what we get. It’s neither’s fault, people will just go where they can live life the easiest, do you blame them?
seanmcdirmid 4y ago
The east side simply enforces it laws. Ya, they don’t go anywhere in the King County Justice system, but the harassment of getting arrested in Bellevue for doing drugs in public is enough to push them into Seattle where that would simply never occur.
- simfree 4y ago
  The Eastside dumps it's problems elsewhere, the current homeless situation and lack of facilities east of Seattle is but one example. Everett has made a huge effort with their rehabilitation and detox programs, but they have the same shitty situation of being the dumping ground for Snohomish County.
  - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
    There are facilities in Bellevue (east gate) and they do contribute money to the regional shelter fund. But generally the really bad cases will go wherever they are best tolerated (like camping, smoking fentanyl on the bus, shoplifting whatever from Fred Meyer while the cops just watch). So Everett, Seattle, and much of south king county, Tacoma, etc.. They are nowhere near immobile, while metro and sound transit doesn’t even try to collect fares anymore. Bellevue doesn’t need to transport anyone to Seattle, they just send out 5 officers 5 minutes after someone lays down on a park bench. Surely Mill Creek does the same forcing people to Everett. (Lynwood probably has a problem just as bad as Everett)
skorpeon87 4y ago
> The King County Municipal Court is dishing these out left and right, Hardly, the number of tweakers they throw into rehab is nothing compared to the number of tweakers on the streets. A small percent of tweakers being thrown into rehab isn't going to solve the problem if most of them aren't thrown into rehab. > suburbs dumping Local politicians always love to blame others. It's never their fault, of course, and the blame casting always comes with fantasy solutions that will never be implemented, like your idea to "track all non-city LEOs". And each year the problem gets worse. The city is filled with people who think as you do, elect ineffectual politicians who think as you do, and so the city gets what it deserves.
sershe 4y ago
(As someone, unfortunately, living in Seattle) Why wouldn't they, really? I mean, there's a reason the problem is not symmetrical - Seattle PD could do the same with Bothell to balance it out and make it a MAD type of thing, but they don't - why not? I think willfully stupid people should suffer the consequences of their willful stupidity. It's a bummer I cannot move away from them right now, but I do see how this is totally fair to the stupid people.

tomcam 4y ago

> Then we get all the suburbs dumping their druggies in Pioneer Square and Chinatown. I How is that happening?

seanmcdirmid 4y ago
Metro or Sound Transit mostly. The east side makes itself inhospitable to porch pirating and public drug use/selling, so the problems wind up in Seattle where the police do much less in those areas.
- Akronymus 4y ago
  So, how is it easr sides fault? Because the comments seem to be implying it to be.
  - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
    I’m a fan of the way the east side does things, none of their voters will fault the police for being too strict on enforcement of quality of life issues. But Seattle voters are different, so this is what we get. It’s neither’s fault, people will just go where they can live life the easiest, do you blame them?

seanmcdirmid 4y ago

The east side simply enforces it laws. Ya, they don’t go anywhere in the King County Justice system, but the harassment of getting arrested in Bellevue for doing drugs in public is enough to push them into Seattle where that would simply never occur.

simfree 4y ago
The Eastside dumps it's problems elsewhere, the current homeless situation and lack of facilities east of Seattle is but one example. Everett has made a huge effort with their rehabilitation and detox programs, but they have the same shitty situation of being the dumping ground for Snohomish County.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  There are facilities in Bellevue (east gate) and they do contribute money to the regional shelter fund. But generally the really bad cases will go wherever they are best tolerated (like camping, smoking fentanyl on the bus, shoplifting whatever from Fred Meyer while the cops just watch). So Everett, Seattle, and much of south king county, Tacoma, etc.. They are nowhere near immobile, while metro and sound transit doesn’t even try to collect fares anymore. Bellevue doesn’t need to transport anyone to Seattle, they just send out 5 officers 5 minutes after someone lays down on a park bench. Surely Mill Creek does the same forcing people to Everett. (Lynwood probably has a problem just as bad as Everett)

skorpeon87 4y ago

> The King County Municipal Court is dishing these out left and right, Hardly, the number of tweakers they throw into rehab is nothing compared to the number of tweakers on the streets. A small percent of tweakers being thrown into rehab isn't going to solve the problem if most of them aren't thrown into rehab. > suburbs dumping Local politicians always love to blame others. It's never their fault, of course, and the blame casting always comes with fantasy solutions that will never be implemented, like your idea to "track all non-city LEOs". And each year the problem gets worse. The city is filled with people who think as you do, elect ineffectual politicians who think as you do, and so the city gets what it deserves.

sershe 4y ago

(As someone, unfortunately, living in Seattle) Why wouldn't they, really? I mean, there's a reason the problem is not symmetrical - Seattle PD could do the same with Bothell to balance it out and make it a MAD type of thing, but they don't - why not? I think willfully stupid people should suffer the consequences of their willful stupidity. It's a bummer I cannot move away from them right now, but I do see how this is totally fair to the stupid people.