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Not to mention that thinness is not a thing in case of Mac Mini.

metadat 4y ago
"Thin" is also no longer a word I'd use to describe the current M1 Macbook Pros; they're significantly thicker and heavier than their Intel counterparts of old (bigger battery required to achieve that legendary battery life?)
- buran77 4y ago
  > significantly thicker and heavier than their Intel counterparts That's really hyperbolic. The 13" M1 MBP is 0.7mm thicker and 30g heavier than the equivalent Intel of not so old, 2015-2019 when the dimensions dropped to the lower bound.
  - metadat 4y ago
    I have both a 2019 Intel and 2022 M1, and the M1 is more than 0.5KG heavier and more than 0.7mm thicker. I was surprised to realize they'd made the newer machines significantly thicker and heavier. Both machines have their pros and cons, neither is perfect or terrible.
    - buran77 4y ago
      All specs are available here [0]. Even if you compare different sizes the 14" M1 is still just ~230g heavier than the 13" Intel. At the same size (13") the differences are what I put above. "More than 0.5kg" means almost half the weight of the laptop. You need a 16" M1 Pro to get there. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201300 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201300
      - metadat 4y ago
        Oops, I'd meant to specify, they are both 16". Thank you, buran777!
        buran77 4y ago
        At 16" it would still put them at a barely noticeable 100g (at 2kg) and 0.6mm difference. Even after Apple rid itself of Ive's obsession with thinness they would never go for "significantly thicker and heavier" than the previous model in a portable device. Can't really think of many (any?) laptops that have this mix of thin, light, high performance, and long battery life.
        ek750 4y ago
        I agree, I'd prefer longer battery life, and better performance in a slight weight and thickness tradeoff. Sadly, I've tried PC laptops (Surface tablet, Surface laptops and Asus laptops) and the performance (speed, thermals and battery life) are still nowhere near the Apple M1 hardware. I wish there was better price/performance from apple, but until the PC world has a strong contender, I don't see that happening. At least Intel has strong competition from AMD now :)
- caycep 4y ago
  People complained because the thin ones didn't have the ports they wanted.
  - AnthonyMouse 4y ago
    And they're still complaining because one of the ports they wanted was the M.2 slot for the SSD. Some things are worth more than saving 10 grams.
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"Thin" is also no longer a word I'd use to describe the current M1 Macbook Pros; they're significantly thicker and heavier than their Intel counterparts of old (bigger battery required to achieve that legendary battery life?)

buran77 4y ago
> significantly thicker and heavier than their Intel counterparts That's really hyperbolic. The 13" M1 MBP is 0.7mm thicker and 30g heavier than the equivalent Intel of not so old, 2015-2019 when the dimensions dropped to the lower bound.
- metadat 4y ago
  I have both a 2019 Intel and 2022 M1, and the M1 is more than 0.5KG heavier and more than 0.7mm thicker. I was surprised to realize they'd made the newer machines significantly thicker and heavier. Both machines have their pros and cons, neither is perfect or terrible.
  - buran77 4y ago
    All specs are available here [0]. Even if you compare different sizes the 14" M1 is still just ~230g heavier than the 13" Intel. At the same size (13") the differences are what I put above. "More than 0.5kg" means almost half the weight of the laptop. You need a 16" M1 Pro to get there. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201300 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201300
    - metadat 4y ago
      Oops, I'd meant to specify, they are both 16". Thank you, buran777!
      - buran77 4y ago
        At 16" it would still put them at a barely noticeable 100g (at 2kg) and 0.6mm difference. Even after Apple rid itself of Ive's obsession with thinness they would never go for "significantly thicker and heavier" than the previous model in a portable device. Can't really think of many (any?) laptops that have this mix of thin, light, high performance, and long battery life.
        ek750 4y ago
        I agree, I'd prefer longer battery life, and better performance in a slight weight and thickness tradeoff. Sadly, I've tried PC laptops (Surface tablet, Surface laptops and Asus laptops) and the performance (speed, thermals and battery life) are still nowhere near the Apple M1 hardware. I wish there was better price/performance from apple, but until the PC world has a strong contender, I don't see that happening. At least Intel has strong competition from AMD now :)
caycep 4y ago
People complained because the thin ones didn't have the ports they wanted.
- AnthonyMouse 4y ago
  And they're still complaining because one of the ports they wanted was the M.2 slot for the SSD. Some things are worth more than saving 10 grams.
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