5 ms·

It isn't the replacing part that is the problem, but the rebooting part that is the larger worry.

nathanaldensr 4y ago
No, it's both. You need to do research that will show you just how long the lead times are for transformer equipment and supplies. Oh, and those lead times are still getting longer.
- ckdarby 4y ago
  Yes, it is both. I do ask for you to reflect back on covid. Remember when trying to make a vaccine was 5-10 years, but when an entire country/world makes something a priority and become hyper focused and motivated they'll 10x output. The problem is when regardless of input you can't speed up the output. Think of a pregnancy, adding more pregnant women doesn't speed up the process, and consuming more inputs doesn't speed up the progress. The electrical grid is nearly a "living entity". It isn't exactly like even if all the replacements magically appeared the problem is solved by a long shot.
  - maxerickson 4y ago
    You appear to be talking about widespread damage. I believe others are talking about bringing up a couple of local substations.
  - landemva 4y ago
    The covid "vaccine" was fast-tracked by ignoring standard safety testing and by granting product safety immunity to manufacturers.
- ikiris 4y ago
  They get really long with the power out.
cesarb 4y ago
If it's just a couple of local substations, "rebooting" is AFAIK not very hard. First the substation is connected to other substations by closing the breakers on each high-voltage circuit between them, one by one; this energizes the transformers in the substation. Then the breakers to the outgoing feeders are closed one by one, which sends power to the loads. There might also be some maneuvering far from the substation to move loads from one substation to another. What's hard is when the outage is also on the generation side; "rebooting" from a full outage (black start) can be a complex dance between starting generators, connecting substations, and energizing loads, since generation has to be matched to consumption at all times, and nearly all generators need power themselves to run (on a full black start, small diesel generators, started by even smaller batteries, are the initial point).

No, it's both. You need to do research that will show you just how long the lead times are for transformer equipment and supplies. Oh, and those lead times are still getting longer.

ckdarby 4y ago
Yes, it is both. I do ask for you to reflect back on covid. Remember when trying to make a vaccine was 5-10 years, but when an entire country/world makes something a priority and become hyper focused and motivated they'll 10x output. The problem is when regardless of input you can't speed up the output. Think of a pregnancy, adding more pregnant women doesn't speed up the process, and consuming more inputs doesn't speed up the progress. The electrical grid is nearly a "living entity". It isn't exactly like even if all the replacements magically appeared the problem is solved by a long shot.
- maxerickson 4y ago
  You appear to be talking about widespread damage. I believe others are talking about bringing up a couple of local substations.
- landemva 4y ago
  The covid "vaccine" was fast-tracked by ignoring standard safety testing and by granting product safety immunity to manufacturers.
ikiris 4y ago
They get really long with the power out.

cesarb 4y ago

If it's just a couple of local substations, "rebooting" is AFAIK not very hard. First the substation is connected to other substations by closing the breakers on each high-voltage circuit between them, one by one; this energizes the transformers in the substation. Then the breakers to the outgoing feeders are closed one by one, which sends power to the loads. There might also be some maneuvering far from the substation to move loads from one substation to another. What's hard is when the outage is also on the generation side; "rebooting" from a full outage (black start) can be a complex dance between starting generators, connecting substations, and energizing loads, since generation has to be matched to consumption at all times, and nearly all generators need power themselves to run (on a full black start, small diesel generators, started by even smaller batteries, are the initial point).