> For what it's worth, Searle is a naturalist (so he thinks brains are "just" meaty machines) and he would also disagree with you. I definitely disagree that S

> For what it's worth, Searle is a naturalist (so he thinks brains are "just" meaty machines) and he would also disagree with you. I definitely disagree that Searle's conclusion in the Chinese room experiment applies to the kinds of AI systems we're building today. I agree that nobody to my knowledge has figured out how to measure sentience, so I don't think that fits under the "measurable" heading. And this does suggest to me — because this was your hand-picked example — that your position as a substance dualist doesn't affect your concrete expectations about what AI systems will actually be able to do in the future. Is that right?