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“It’s hard to imagine where you might see something like this today.” YouTube or TikTok, because broadcast TV is all but dead.

by rhplus 4y ago

speedgoose 4y ago
ArteTV does broadcast content like this.
brudgers 4y ago
That was my first thought, but my second was nothing new on YouTube has that kind of budget. I mean there’s the three broadcast cameras dancing plus operators plus more broadcast cameras shooting operating on a full soundstage with crews of gaffers and grips and catering and scale wages. I am not saying that YouTube and TikTok aren’t possibly as creative. Only that nobody is putting that level of resources behind a TikTok because nobody will put that much money at risk.
- mattkrause 4y ago
  Some of OK Go’s videos might be close: the crew shot for their Rube Goldberg video has a ton of folks in it.
- harry8 4y ago
  Stick "modern dance" or "abstract dance" into youtube and you find a bunch of stuff very quickly. Try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FwiMlDQ7rI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FwiMlDQ7rI I did not look hard.
  - brudgers 4y ago
    Sorry for not being clear. In terms of creative expression, I think TikTok and YouTube are vastly more egalitarian allowing greater artistic expression by many many more people. And I think they are certainly filled with better dancing in terms of technique, aesthetics, and expression. What they don't have is the production value of a crewed soundstage...plus three additional studio cameras in the dance. There's the equivalent of a few million dollars worth of hardware as a "prop."
    - harry8 4y ago
      >What they don't have is the production value of... Yeah but they kinda do nowadays don't they? I mean I look at 70s tv clips like these ones and stick that search term into google and do not see a drop in production values from one to the other. Picture quality is frequently an improvement, yay tech advances? Sound mixing can sound great using inexpensive equipment and some recently learned expertise? Lighting, kind of couples with camera tech but seems to be able to be ok without it costing everything? In fact my guess is a bunch of professional dance companies get grants and funding to professionally video their stuff and stick it on the web while being totally under their own artistic control, not needing to wait for an invitation to a broadcast tv station and not having to give up so much for the requirements of that medium? I dislike the way youtube does things, but I'm not doing it better so there's that. There is surely an ocean of manure there. I really do like the diamonds in amongst all that stench that otherwise would not have been made, let alone found an audience. Especially and particularly the educational resources.

“It’s hard to imagine where you might see something like this today.” YouTube or TikTok, because broadcast TV is all but dead.

by rhplus 4y ago

“It’s hard to imagine where you might see something like this today.” YouTube or TikTok, because broadcast TV is all but dead.

speedgoose 4y ago

ArteTV does broadcast content like this.

brudgers 4y ago

That was my first thought, but my second was nothing new on YouTube has that kind of budget. I mean there’s the three broadcast cameras dancing plus operators plus more broadcast cameras shooting operating on a full soundstage with crews of gaffers and grips and catering and scale wages. I am not saying that YouTube and TikTok aren’t possibly as creative. Only that nobody is putting that level of resources behind a TikTok because nobody will put that much money at risk.

mattkrause 4y ago
Some of OK Go’s videos might be close: the crew shot for their Rube Goldberg video has a ton of folks in it.
harry8 4y ago
Stick "modern dance" or "abstract dance" into youtube and you find a bunch of stuff very quickly. Try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FwiMlDQ7rI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FwiMlDQ7rI I did not look hard.
- brudgers 4y ago
  Sorry for not being clear. In terms of creative expression, I think TikTok and YouTube are vastly more egalitarian allowing greater artistic expression by many many more people. And I think they are certainly filled with better dancing in terms of technique, aesthetics, and expression. What they don't have is the production value of a crewed soundstage...plus three additional studio cameras in the dance. There's the equivalent of a few million dollars worth of hardware as a "prop."
  - harry8 4y ago
    >What they don't have is the production value of... Yeah but they kinda do nowadays don't they? I mean I look at 70s tv clips like these ones and stick that search term into google and do not see a drop in production values from one to the other. Picture quality is frequently an improvement, yay tech advances? Sound mixing can sound great using inexpensive equipment and some recently learned expertise? Lighting, kind of couples with camera tech but seems to be able to be ok without it costing everything? In fact my guess is a bunch of professional dance companies get grants and funding to professionally video their stuff and stick it on the web while being totally under their own artistic control, not needing to wait for an invitation to a broadcast tv station and not having to give up so much for the requirements of that medium? I dislike the way youtube does things, but I'm not doing it better so there's that. There is surely an ocean of manure there. I really do like the diamonds in amongst all that stench that otherwise would not have been made, let alone found an audience. Especially and particularly the educational resources.