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Ok, I see and accept your point. But still after your clarification, I see nothing wrong with west cheering the revolution. a) It is our side b) It is impossib
by lajosbacs 4y ago
Ok, I see and accept your point.
But still after your clarification, I see nothing wrong with west cheering the revolution. a) It is our side b) It is impossible to enforce 'not cheering', one slip is enough to be used against you, see Musk and Russian propaganda.
And regarding the Gulf states, I also do not like this. But one has to pick his battles and better (for us) getting our oil from them than from Russia.
- Matl 4y ago> But one has to pick his battles and better (for us) getting our oil from them than from Russia. Hmm...could you clarify? The human rights situation in the Gulf is much, much worse in the Gulf. Would this be because they're easier to get in line?
- lajosbacs 4y agoI meant that we need to buy our oil somewhere, for now. And unlike Russia they are far away and not an imminent danger. So better be friends with them, even though we don't like it.
- Matl 4y ago> unlike Russia they are far away and not an imminent danger. So better be friends with them, even though we don't like it. The reason we're no longer on OK terms with Russia is because of Ukraine, yet we're actively helping the likes of KSA and the UAE to do much the same in places like Yemen. I don't know how we can claim to want to not buy oil/gas from Russia based on moral grounds, yet continue our trade with the Gulf and yet still claim some sort of moral high ground.
- lajosbacs 4y agoThat's what I mean, who cares about moral ground when one's own security is on the plate. See how quickly Finland and Sweden dropped their support of Kurds when it was obstructing (via Turkey) their NATO ascension. Even the Kurds have to understand this. I also only give to charity when I'm not broke. Not everyone is Mother Theresa all the time and that should be OK. It's not 0 or 1.