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As a Canadian I want to point out this article is quite misleading. The issue is far more systemic than this article claims. In Canada MAID is the 6th leading

As a Canadian I want to point out this article is quite misleading. The issue is far more systemic than this article claims. In Canada MAID is the 6th leading cause of death, and is rising so fast it is basically guaranteed to be the 3rd cause by 2025. Doctors that will not back the MAID initiative are fired, every year they expand the criteria under which you can be euthanize, right now they want to expand it to include poverty.Their are reports of children and confused elderly being tricked into euthanasia without their families knowledge. And we get reports on how much all this is saving the government.

hungryforcodes 4y ago
> Their are reports of children and confused elderly being tricked into euthanasia without their families knowledge Interesting, can you provide links to these reports? It's a pretty serious assertion.
- wisnoskij 4y ago
  A quick google search did not return anything, mainstream media does not cover stories like this, and I cannot remember where I read these stories. I know the last one I read was about a family suing the government to stop the euthanasia of their son(I believe). And I have read articles similar to this one of the elderly going to the hospital and being offered euthanasia instead of medical care. I did find this forbes article (https://www.forbes.com/sites/gusalexiou/2022/08/15/canadas-new-euthanasia-laws-carry-upsetting-nazi-era-echoes-warns-expert/?sh=4e3456fec7b8 https://www.forbes.com/sites/gusalexiou/2022/08/15/canadas-n...) that talked about a troubling case I had not heard or and included lots of details about the whole system. But when all you need is a nurse practitioner and a signature from someone with dementia or other mentally crippling disease, of course things like this will happen. Agree or disagree with how some European countries do it, this is not that same thing. The people pushing this are the doctors and nurses you go to to get medial treatment from, and the oversight is non-existent.
  - postalrat 4y ago
    From where I sit it seems like your perception on this topic is quite different then the reality.
- guilhas 4y ago
  From google Terminally ill children as young as 12 should have euthanasia choice, expert panel urges https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/terminally-ill-children-as-young-as-12-should-have-euthanasia-choice-expert-panel-urges https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/terminally-ill-children... Canadian Bill to Allow Euthanasia of Dementia Patients https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/canadian-bill-to-allow-euthanasia-of-dementia-patients/ https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/canadian-bill-to-allow... FIRST READING: To countries considering legal euthanasia, Canada a model of what not to do https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/first-reading-to-countries-considering-legal-euthanasia-canada-a-model-of-what-not-to-do/ar-AA129VXW https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/first-reading-to-count... EXCLUSIVE: Doctors slam Canada's 'perverted' new law that allows people to be EUTHANIZED if they are suffering from mental health problems https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11440261/Canada-expand-assisted-dying-laws-include-mental-health-disorders.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11440261/Canada-e... What Euthanasia Has Done to Canada https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/03/opinion/canada-euthanasia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/03/opinion/canada-euthanasia... Canadian man claims assisted suicide is being pushed on him by hospital https://nypost.com/2022/11/08/canadian-man-assisted-suicide-being-pushed-on-me-by-hospital/ https://nypost.com/2022/11/08/canadian-man-assisted-suicide-... Assisted Suicide for Poverty https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/assisted-suicide-for-poverty/ https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/assisted-suicide-for-p... Canada opens door to expanding assisted dying https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51620021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51620021 Canada expanding assisted suicide law to include the mentally ill, possibly enable 'mature minors' https://www.foxnews.com/media/canadas-expanding-assisted-suicide-law-include-mentally-ill-enable-mature-minors https://www.foxnews.com/media/canadas-expanding-assisted-sui...
vbsd 4y ago
I was curious what 6th leading cause of death means in terms of percentages. From the annual report on MAID (medical assistance in dying) in Canada: > In 2021, there were 10,064 MAID provisions reported in Canada, accounting for 3.3% of all deaths in Canada. > The number of cases of MAID in 2021 represents a growth rate of 32.4% over 2020. All provinces continue to experience a steady year over year growth. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/medical-assistance-dying/annual-report-2021.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/medical-assi...
- wisnoskij 4y ago
  Yes, tho percentage is not a great way of interpolating the data since it has been 99% linear since its inception with a slope averaging 1.7k additional deaths per year.

hungryforcodes 4y ago

> Their are reports of children and confused elderly being tricked into euthanasia without their families knowledge Interesting, can you provide links to these reports? It's a pretty serious assertion.

wisnoskij 4y ago
A quick google search did not return anything, mainstream media does not cover stories like this, and I cannot remember where I read these stories. I know the last one I read was about a family suing the government to stop the euthanasia of their son(I believe). And I have read articles similar to this one of the elderly going to the hospital and being offered euthanasia instead of medical care. I did find this forbes article (https://www.forbes.com/sites/gusalexiou/2022/08/15/canadas-new-euthanasia-laws-carry-upsetting-nazi-era-echoes-warns-expert/?sh=4e3456fec7b8 https://www.forbes.com/sites/gusalexiou/2022/08/15/canadas-n...) that talked about a troubling case I had not heard or and included lots of details about the whole system. But when all you need is a nurse practitioner and a signature from someone with dementia or other mentally crippling disease, of course things like this will happen. Agree or disagree with how some European countries do it, this is not that same thing. The people pushing this are the doctors and nurses you go to to get medial treatment from, and the oversight is non-existent.
- postalrat 4y ago
  From where I sit it seems like your perception on this topic is quite different then the reality.
guilhas 4y ago
From google Terminally ill children as young as 12 should have euthanasia choice, expert panel urges https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/terminally-ill-children-as-young-as-12-should-have-euthanasia-choice-expert-panel-urges https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/terminally-ill-children... Canadian Bill to Allow Euthanasia of Dementia Patients https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/canadian-bill-to-allow-euthanasia-of-dementia-patients/ https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/canadian-bill-to-allow... FIRST READING: To countries considering legal euthanasia, Canada a model of what not to do https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/first-reading-to-countries-considering-legal-euthanasia-canada-a-model-of-what-not-to-do/ar-AA129VXW https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/first-reading-to-count... EXCLUSIVE: Doctors slam Canada's 'perverted' new law that allows people to be EUTHANIZED if they are suffering from mental health problems https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11440261/Canada-expand-assisted-dying-laws-include-mental-health-disorders.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11440261/Canada-e... What Euthanasia Has Done to Canada https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/03/opinion/canada-euthanasia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/03/opinion/canada-euthanasia... Canadian man claims assisted suicide is being pushed on him by hospital https://nypost.com/2022/11/08/canadian-man-assisted-suicide-being-pushed-on-me-by-hospital/ https://nypost.com/2022/11/08/canadian-man-assisted-suicide-... Assisted Suicide for Poverty https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/assisted-suicide-for-poverty/ https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/assisted-suicide-for-p... Canada opens door to expanding assisted dying https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51620021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51620021 Canada expanding assisted suicide law to include the mentally ill, possibly enable 'mature minors' https://www.foxnews.com/media/canadas-expanding-assisted-suicide-law-include-mentally-ill-enable-mature-minors https://www.foxnews.com/media/canadas-expanding-assisted-sui...

vbsd 4y ago

I was curious what 6th leading cause of death means in terms of percentages. From the annual report on MAID (medical assistance in dying) in Canada: > In 2021, there were 10,064 MAID provisions reported in Canada, accounting for 3.3% of all deaths in Canada. > The number of cases of MAID in 2021 represents a growth rate of 32.4% over 2020. All provinces continue to experience a steady year over year growth. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/medical-assistance-dying/annual-report-2021.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/medical-assi...

wisnoskij 4y ago
Yes, tho percentage is not a great way of interpolating the data since it has been 99% linear since its inception with a slope averaging 1.7k additional deaths per year.