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> If I had to hypothesize about why that might be the case, I would say it would probably be due to ridesharing replacing transit, making it worse in turn. I t

> If I had to hypothesize about why that might be the case, I would say it would probably be due to ridesharing replacing transit, making it worse in turn. I think it's economics & utility. I begrudgingly own a car (and parking). The few times a month I use my car, it would cost way more to Uber than to own my car and drive myself. Not to mention, I think of myself as a pretty bad driver, but most times my Uber drivers are even worse. It's also useful the once a month or so I drive out of the city to camp or go hiking or see family or whatever (don't need to rent a car). It's also useful for the odd shopping trip here & there (and much cheaper than renting a car or Ubering to 5 or different stores, with bags & boxes, etc). I still use Uber a few times a month - when I need to go somewhere where parking is a nightmare. But I mostly just walk & bike & take the train.

Spivak 4y ago
Huh, I’m currently in the opposite boat. The cost of ride-sharing a few times a month is so much cheaper than the total cost of owning a car. Like hell it’s less than just the insurance.
scarface74 4y ago
So my wife and I decided to do the digital nomad thing earlier this year. Our first thought was that we would drive her Hyundai Tuscan and across the country and sell my old car. Then we realized we don’t like road trips when we drove from Atlanta (our home) to Nashville. She gets carsick when she is not driving. Which is ironic because it doesn’t happen when she is driving and she has had a commercial driving license for decades and she was a city bus driver before we got married and a school bus driver afterwards - mostly for the benefits until two years ago. We sold both of our cars saving $800 a month in car notes and insurance not counting maintenance - I was already working remotely - and we decided to fly everywhere and have a $900/month “Uber budget”. Even before then, I hated everything about car ownership and for year we had one car when I gave my car to my older son who doesn’t live with us. I loved when I went on business trips and didn’t have to drive. We don’t have to worry about car maintenance and repairs and statistically flying long distances is much safer than driving. Another anecdote is that before my son could drive he had a job. We paid about $400 a month for him to take Uber everywhere which was much cheaper than a car note and car insurance for an under 21 year old male ($550). No we couldn’t buy a big six foot three dude an old little beater and I hate dealing with car repairs.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  Are you buying a new car every 3 years? That car note shouldn't be $400/mo for the life of the car.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    My wife and I have been married since 2012. She had an old beater and we bought a 2011 used Ford Fusion for her($15K) from CarMax. I had a 2008 Honda Civic. In 2015, I gave my car to my older (step)son and bought a 2012 Sonic Fusion ($14k). In 2020 when I started working remotely, my older son who didn’t live with us needed a car so I gave him my Sonic and we lived with one car for a year - I had a permanently remote job at $BigTech by then. We shared the 2011 Fusion. A year later in the summer of 2021 we bought the Hyundai ($36k) and I drove the 2011 Fusion. When we decided to do the digital nomad thing starting in October, we sold the Hyundai back to the dealer for what we owed and saved $750 between the car note and insurance. Right before we left, we sold the Fusion saving another $80 a month in car insurance. Again this doesn’t count car maintenance.
    - caseysoftware 4y ago
      $400/month for life is totally believable. I drive a 2013 that I bought in 2017 and paid off early in 2020. For the lifetime of the car to date, I've spent $12.33/day (~$370/month) counting the original loan, maintenance, gas, taxes, and registration but not insurance. Over time, the loan will be more amortized but the other costs will never go down and likely go up.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        Why not include insurance?
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- skydhash 4y ago
  I also got car sick when I’m not the one driving. I think it’s related to the anticipation of motion. If you’re driving, you can expect the responses your body is going to send to you. The same thing happens to me with new games and drastic changes of screen size. My brain has to get familiar with the camera movement and rotation patterns for me to not be nauseous. It does not happens when I ride as a passenger on a bike, maybe because I have much greater control of my body.

Spivak 4y ago

Huh, I’m currently in the opposite boat. The cost of ride-sharing a few times a month is so much cheaper than the total cost of owning a car. Like hell it’s less than just the insurance.

scarface74 4y ago

So my wife and I decided to do the digital nomad thing earlier this year. Our first thought was that we would drive her Hyundai Tuscan and across the country and sell my old car. Then we realized we don’t like road trips when we drove from Atlanta (our home) to Nashville. She gets carsick when she is not driving. Which is ironic because it doesn’t happen when she is driving and she has had a commercial driving license for decades and she was a city bus driver before we got married and a school bus driver afterwards - mostly for the benefits until two years ago. We sold both of our cars saving $800 a month in car notes and insurance not counting maintenance - I was already working remotely - and we decided to fly everywhere and have a $900/month “Uber budget”. Even before then, I hated everything about car ownership and for year we had one car when I gave my car to my older son who doesn’t live with us. I loved when I went on business trips and didn’t have to drive. We don’t have to worry about car maintenance and repairs and statistically flying long distances is much safer than driving. Another anecdote is that before my son could drive he had a job. We paid about $400 a month for him to take Uber everywhere which was much cheaper than a car note and car insurance for an under 21 year old male ($550). No we couldn’t buy a big six foot three dude an old little beater and I hate dealing with car repairs.

vorpalhex 4y ago
Are you buying a new car every 3 years? That car note shouldn't be $400/mo for the life of the car.
- scarface74 4y ago
  My wife and I have been married since 2012. She had an old beater and we bought a 2011 used Ford Fusion for her($15K) from CarMax. I had a 2008 Honda Civic. In 2015, I gave my car to my older (step)son and bought a 2012 Sonic Fusion ($14k). In 2020 when I started working remotely, my older son who didn’t live with us needed a car so I gave him my Sonic and we lived with one car for a year - I had a permanently remote job at $BigTech by then. We shared the 2011 Fusion. A year later in the summer of 2021 we bought the Hyundai ($36k) and I drove the 2011 Fusion. When we decided to do the digital nomad thing starting in October, we sold the Hyundai back to the dealer for what we owed and saved $750 between the car note and insurance. Right before we left, we sold the Fusion saving another $80 a month in car insurance. Again this doesn’t count car maintenance.
  - caseysoftware 4y ago
    $400/month for life is totally believable. I drive a 2013 that I bought in 2017 and paid off early in 2020. For the lifetime of the car to date, I've spent $12.33/day (~$370/month) counting the original loan, maintenance, gas, taxes, and registration but not insurance. Over time, the loan will be more amortized but the other costs will never go down and likely go up.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      Why not include insurance?
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skydhash 4y ago
I also got car sick when I’m not the one driving. I think it’s related to the anticipation of motion. If you’re driving, you can expect the responses your body is going to send to you. The same thing happens to me with new games and drastic changes of screen size. My brain has to get familiar with the camera movement and rotation patterns for me to not be nauseous. It does not happens when I ride as a passenger on a bike, maybe because I have much greater control of my body.