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Gotta start somewhere. No one is laughing at Chinese cars any anymore
by pcurve 4y ago
Gotta start somewhere. No one is laughing at Chinese cars any anymore
- number6 4y agoNot? They are still laughing at Tesla
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y agoThat's because Tesla is a company that advertises itself as saving the world, curing cancer, crafting a backup plan for humanity... Then you see the thing and it's ugly as sin outside, you get inside and it's cheap and empty with an iPad sticked there to save money on components. The richest country on Earth can't possibly have that as their flagship car brand. China however considering where they were just 15 years ago, you look at a 2022 Geely and it feels like it's attacking the Japanese brands positioning and by the end of the decade they could take on the Germans. They will never be able to attack the Italians but Ferrari and Lamborghini are special and nobody can touch them anyway.
- phlipski 4y agoLamborghini is German through and through now. VW owns them.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago> Lamborghini is German through and through now Just because VW has a controlling stake in Lamborghini doesn't make Wolfsburg the capital of supercar design. For a whole bunch of reasons, mostly cultural, it will always be that triangle between Florence, Milan and Turin. Foxxcon might become big enough to buy Apple one day. Still if you were to visit the 2 HQs, and the 2 cities you'd understand where the devices are designed, regardless of the cap table and who owns who
- Dextro 4y agoWolfsburg? Doubt it. But Ingolstadt? A bit more likely. The Audi R8 shared quite a bit with one of the Lamborghini models (can't remember the name). And don't forget the SUVs
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y agoI don't know, when I look at an R8 I can sense that it was designed in Germany, whereas if I look at a Lamborghini Aventador it's clear it was designed in Italy. The new Corvette C8 feels like it comes from Italy as well. In fact the Corvette has been Ferrari-zed both in external design as well as engine positioning
- djpr 4y agoStylings and interior obviously differ, but R8 has long shared engines, drive trains, and chasis with Lambos. Engine is from Lambo, but I believe the drive train might be Audi-first?
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y agoDesign is the most important thing for a supercar. The Ferrari 250 GTO is getting smoked by Hyundais and Subarus nowadays. Of course once you are done showing off you have the small inconvenience that you have to drop down and look at your car near the 250GTO. Same thing for Teslas
- astrange 4y agoWhere does Tesla advertise itself at all?
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y agoVia the loudmouth of the fraudster at the helm
- wazoox 4y agoThey're building Teslas in China. Almost all Teslas sold in Europe come from China, because they're of a much better build quality than US-built Teslas.
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- quakeguy 4y agoThe ones from the Brandenburg fab sure are.
- extrememacaroni 4y agoMainly because they're nowhere to be found outside China?
- msworddebugger 4y agoYou see them in some MENA with loose import laws. They’re ugly as sin but they’re the cheapest new cars you can buy.
- MikePlacid 4y agoThey are rather popular in Russia, especially trucks. And their market share will only increase now.
- VBprogrammer 4y agoDon't know where you are from but in the UK MG are outselling a whole bunch of the big car makers. I think possibly even the 3rd biggest by sales volume at the moment. The age of the Chinese car is coming. I think in the transition to electric cars they are going to take a big chunk of the lower end of the market. I get a feeling this is why a lot of mid market brands like Mazda and Volvo are trying to push into the upper end of the market. Cars like the MG4 are getting rave reviews for example.
- NicoJuicy 4y agoVolvo is bought by the Chinese
- thedrbrian 4y agoCheap shit outsells expensive stuff. News at 11
- xbmcuser 4y agoJapanese cars were cheap shit till they took over the world. Korean tv/devices were shit till they took over the world. Same is going to happen with China made stuff.
- dclowd9901 4y agoReally? When did we stop?
- rippercushions 4y agoCheck out Polestar. Also a Geely brand, as it happens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polestar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polestar
- fakedang 4y agoPolestar is still Volvo-style engineering. On the other hand, most Chinese-style engineered cars are pretty shite (Geely, GAC, Hong Qi, etc). Edit:- shite, not white
- tpmx 4y agoPolestar cars are designed (at a component level) in Gothenburg, Sweden and manufactured in Chengdu, China.
- porphyra 4y agoMaybe you haven't seen the newer cars like the Zeekr 001 which is amazing (Zeekr is one of Geely's sub brands). Nio ET5, Xpeng P5, BYD Seal, are also very attractive cars aimed squarely at Tesla.
- dclowd9901 4y agoI had a polestar v60, sir, and that thing is no Polestar.
- this_steve_j 4y agoI had a Volvo V90 with the Polestar software upgrade, and I’d say we are both fortunate. It became much more driveable with extra power in all the modes. Perhaps Volvo would have sold more units if it was standard instead of $1500, but at least it wasn’t a monthly subscription.
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