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Deswampifying Florida is one of the greatest environmental tragedies ever committed. Up there with the building of the Glen Canyon and Hoover Dam. Shortly below

Deswampifying Florida is one of the greatest environmental tragedies ever committed. Up there with the building of the Glen Canyon and Hoover Dam. Shortly below is attempting to control the Mississippi River Delta.

debacle 4y ago
The problem is the land owners who didn't see it as a tragedy are still the ones pulling the strings. Florida is on borrowed time.
- justinator 4y ago
  You're right, but it's a losing battle.
giraffe_lady 4y ago
All the hundreds of dams out west built to irrigate high and cold interior deserts really. Each individually unjustifiable environmental destruction, all together a catastrophe. They'll outlast everything else we build and probably even the memory of the name of this country itself.
- justinator 4y ago
  I have to agree with your sentiment.
paganel 4y ago
The Soviets thinking about reversing the flow direction of some big Siberian rivers (from South to North into North to South) might have topped them all, if the project had actually been executed. [1] Of course, the same Soviets copied the American capitalists's hydro policy, starting with Stalin and continuing with Khrushchev, with the same negative environmental effects. The Volga Hydroelectric Station project [2] was used as an accusation against Khrushchev by some and said accusation was used for its dismissal, supposedly for the project's negative effects, mainly the huge swathes of very productive agricultural lands which got submerged. Modern-day Egypt has done the same thing with the Aswan Dam. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_river_reversal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_river_reversal [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Hydroelectric_Station https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Hydroelectric_Station
matkoniecz 4y ago
> Hoover Dam What is wrong with it? It definitely caused damage, but also partially displaced more polluting energy sources, partially increased available energy. Are you sure that overall balance is so dismal?
- justinator 4y ago
  Currently Lake Mead is at record lows, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lake-mead-water-level-historic-low-drought-heres-what-that-means/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lake-mead-water-level-historic-... https://mead.uslakes.info/level.asp https://mead.uslakes.info/level.asp The Hoover Dam is at half production, https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/16/us/hoover-dam-hydropower-drought-climate/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/16/us/hoover-dam-hydropower-drou... The system is failing.
  - masklinn 4y ago
    And destroyed the Colorado river delta as a living ecosystem.

debacle 4y ago

The problem is the land owners who didn't see it as a tragedy are still the ones pulling the strings. Florida is on borrowed time.

justinator 4y ago
You're right, but it's a losing battle.

giraffe_lady 4y ago

All the hundreds of dams out west built to irrigate high and cold interior deserts really. Each individually unjustifiable environmental destruction, all together a catastrophe. They'll outlast everything else we build and probably even the memory of the name of this country itself.

justinator 4y ago
I have to agree with your sentiment.

paganel 4y ago

The Soviets thinking about reversing the flow direction of some big Siberian rivers (from South to North into North to South) might have topped them all, if the project had actually been executed. [1] Of course, the same Soviets copied the American capitalists's hydro policy, starting with Stalin and continuing with Khrushchev, with the same negative environmental effects. The Volga Hydroelectric Station project [2] was used as an accusation against Khrushchev by some and said accusation was used for its dismissal, supposedly for the project's negative effects, mainly the huge swathes of very productive agricultural lands which got submerged. Modern-day Egypt has done the same thing with the Aswan Dam. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_river_reversal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_river_reversal [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Hydroelectric_Station https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Hydroelectric_Station

matkoniecz 4y ago

> Hoover Dam What is wrong with it? It definitely caused damage, but also partially displaced more polluting energy sources, partially increased available energy. Are you sure that overall balance is so dismal?

justinator 4y ago
Currently Lake Mead is at record lows, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lake-mead-water-level-historic-low-drought-heres-what-that-means/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lake-mead-water-level-historic-... https://mead.uslakes.info/level.asp https://mead.uslakes.info/level.asp The Hoover Dam is at half production, https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/16/us/hoover-dam-hydropower-drought-climate/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/16/us/hoover-dam-hydropower-drou... The system is failing.
- masklinn 4y ago
  And destroyed the Colorado river delta as a living ecosystem.