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Wikipedia editors have noticed that people use wikipedia for this purpose (finding the current location of sites) and so they have started to censor links for s
by voxic11 4y ago
Wikipedia editors have noticed that people use wikipedia for this purpose (finding the current location of sites) and so they have started to censor links for sites they don't want to encourage people to access. Right now this mostly impacts sites few would condone, like 8chan or kiwifarms. But in theory the policy applies to any site with illegal material so places like the pirate bay or scihub could have their links removed at any time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kiwi_Farms#URL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kiwi_Farms#URL
- kevmo314 4y agoComing soon: DNS over ChatGPT
- _def 4y agoI had never heard of kiwi farms before. Disgusting...
- charlieyu1 4y agoWell I can see links about Hong Kong being censored then. I mean anything about Hong Kong is censored already.
- computerfriend 4y agoHere's a well-reasoned argument linked from that thread for keeping extremist URL in articles about extremist websites. Strange what can change in just a couple of years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_164#Extremist_groups_and_their_URL%27s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(poli...
- ranger_danger 4y agoGot a TL;DR ?
- matheusmoreira 4y agoAh, the ever expanding definition of extremism. By now it already means anything that isn't politically correct. Organize terrorist attacks? I bet it's just protests they don't like. Lots of protests going on in my country right now and it's really tiresome to watch the media call them terrorists. It's like they all use the same arguments to silence and censor people.
- nicklaf 4y agoI wonder if Wikipedia could take an approach similar to what package managers do in Linux distros when they decide not to include non-free packages by default: savvy users must add external repositories containing the banned entities (with such a repository possibly being unofficial and externally hosted). Perhaps this could be realized by letting logged in users fill out a field for sources of third-party domain records, each of which could be a source of domains across the entire Wikipedia site. Or, more simply, just flag certain domains as such, and silently require users enable something like HN's "showdead" bit. Otherwise, if you look at the size of that talk page, trying to decide this once and for all brings to mind the idea that "hard cases make bad law".
- wildcow 4y agoI think i will just redirect scihub on wikipedia to another hub :) just for fun.
- yydcool 4y agoso it's just matter of time, and wikipedia is no better than google
- fundad 4y agoA leveraged buyout is always a possibility
- besnn00 4y agoWikipedia has helped me in a couple of instances in which Google or DuckDuckGo couldn't, for example getting the latest onion or clearnet URL for a certain site.
- bombcar 4y agoArguably the onion URL is information of value, but someone who can't figure out what the URL for 8chan might be probably doesn't need to go there anyway.
- rpgmaker 4y agoThey certainly are no better than Google in that respect. Wikipedia has been censoring and promoting tilted political edits to the pages of certain figures for years now. Unbeknownst to most people, Wikipedia is central to the global censorship apparatus that's been put in place in the last decade or so.
- appletrotter 4y agoCould hardcode the values for those sites in the extension in that case.
- maxique 4y agoWhich defeats the object when the URLs change so often, and we're back to the original problem.
- EarlKing 4y agoI'm genuinely shocked people haven't been redirecting this to Tubgirl. Frankly, I'm a little disappointed.