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I think they are sueing (some of) them. There was a new yorker article (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens http
by djcannabiz 4y ago
I think they are sueing (some of) them. There was a new yorker article (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/how-democracie...) on how apple and other tech firms are sueing NSO and some other actors under the grounds they are violating the Icloud EULA by using imessage to hack people.
- badRNG 4y agoIt seems really hard to find grounds to sue these spyware vendors that don't equally apply to security researchers doing the kind of work that makes spyware less viable overall.
- nradov 4y agoThat is not a realistic concern with most major vendors. Apple, for example, has clear guidelines on what security researchers are allowed to do. Anyone who follows those guidelines won't be sued. https://security.apple.com/terms-and-conditions/ https://security.apple.com/terms-and-conditions/
- not2b 4y agoBut they don't have to do that. They can choose to sue spyware vendors and not sue security researchers who have technically violated the same provision.
- dmix 4y agoPrecedent?
- saagarjha 4y agoIt’s pretty easy to brand security researchers as malicious if you don’t like them.
- nordsieck 4y ago> It’s pretty easy to brand security researchers as malicious if you don’t like them. OK. But it's in Apple's interest to work with them. Because the alternative is that the 0-day exploits get sold to companies or countries that aren't Apple. No such synergistic relationship exists between Apple and spyware vendors.