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If you have a Samsung laserprinter with number pad and empty toner / imaging unit try menu # 1904 menu and reset the counter, then happily print thousands of
by nuodag 4y ago
If you have a Samsung laserprinter with number pad and empty toner / imaging unit try menu # 1904 menu and reset the counter, then happily print thousands of pages more
- mc32 4y agoBrother lasers also have a funky reset procedure (depends on model, but searchable on internet). It’s outrageous. You can get another 500 to 1000 pages out of it.
- ck45 4y agoI have an older Brother HL-2035. It can be convinced to keep on printing by covering two holes on the cartridge with some duct tape.
- yamazakiwi 4y agoI have an older Brother. I usually have to hit it a few times to get it to print any documents for me but you know how family is.
- TurkishPoptart 4y agoThat's nuts. What's the rationale for that, aside from possibly selling more cartridges? So wasteful!
- simcop2387 4y agoFor some of these it may be a quality issue. With less material to deposit in the cartridge it may not apply evenly. Lots of times this could be fine but it might not always be the case.
- mc32 4y agoThat's possible and understandable for high volume printers. But for personal/desk printers they should have an option like. Cartridges are running low on toner, would you like to enable degraded printing? Rather than having labyrinthine steps to overcome out of toner error (which are not in the manual mind you). My experience is that full color printouts do not suffer. When they do run out, it's noticeable and comes nearly at once --rather than slowly degrading.
- MertsA 4y agoThose two holes are transparent windows across the toner cartridge. It's a level sensor.
- xav0989 4y agoMy brother laser printers have a setting on the web interface for what to do when the "replace toner" warning comes up: either continue printing or stop. They'll happily keep printing if configured to "continue".
- martinflack 4y agoAt least with Brother you can mail in the old laser drums that you pull out. I hope to God they're doing something sensible to reuse ink/parts.
- ChainOfFools 4y agoCanon also has a program like this, although they dont have that brilliant consumables separation of toner from drum that seems to be a brother-only hallmark at the sub $1,000 pricepoint. so you have to replace a perfectly usable drum with each toner change, like HP and all the rest.
- kipchak 4y agoI've done this for a few office Brother laser MFCs. In my experience while you can get a couple hundred more pages out, pages may start being speckled and the cartridge will dust toner into the printer, even if there's still plenty of toner in the cartridge. From what I can tell this is due to a rubber blade that cleans the toner cartridge's "drum" wearing out, which can sometimes (but not very easily) be replaceable. My guess is that while there's some encouragement of new cartridges going on, the print count is also at a lower number to prevent issues like it from cropping up. I've also heard that as the cartridge goes through toner, some printers will increase voltage on the drums proportionally, which can be thrown off by resetting the toner level. From a toner remanufacturing document: "When the printer senses a new toner cartridge, the bias voltage is set to a high voltage. As the cartridge is used, the bias voltage is reduced gradually down. This process is necessary because according to Brother, a new toner cartridge has a tendency to print light. As the cartridge is used, the density increases. To keep the density level even throughout its life, the density bias voltage is reduced accordingly. Each time a new cartridge is installed, the bias voltage is reset to the high voltage point, and the cartridge page count is reset to zero." [1] Here's a visual of the blades if you're curious. https://youtu.be/UlB832MOUtQ?t=7 https://youtu.be/UlB832MOUtQ?t=7 [1]http://www.uninetimaging.com/downloads/technical/TecArtWebAdded/BROTHER_HL_L6200_SERIES_REMAN_TONER_ENG.pdf http://www.uninetimaging.com/downloads/technical/TecArtWebAd...
- bmitc 4y agoMy Brother laser printer has been reporting low toner for months (years?) now. Does it get to a point where it says toner is out and stops printing? For now, I just keep printing, and it's working just fine.
- denton-scratch 4y agoI bought a Samsung printer a few years ago. A couple of months later, I discovered that Samsung's printer arm had been acquired by Hewlett-Packard - the company I least wanted to buy a printer from. My printer has no number pad. It has a horrible menu system you navigate with arrow-keys. The cartridge it came with was tiny - it lasted for less than a ream. But the replacement I bought is still going strong (I don't print more than a couple of pages a week, which is why I didn't want an ink-jet).
- mrighele 4y agoIdentical story here. The toner the printer came with lasted a few months. I refilled it in a local shop (the guy explained me that they had to replace the chip that counts the pages so refilling was expensive, but in fact it was a fraction of a new one). Still printing with that same toner after (I think) 6 years.
- pndy 4y agoMy laser Samsung from 2013 has a just small display and simple function buttons. But I never got an original cartridge - the replacement I can get online are far cheaper and cost me about 8.50 EUR without the delivery cost. The printer works but paper feeder rollers seem to struggle now. I'm afraid that once it gets broken beyond any repair I'll have to get new which will chain me to official supplies. ghacks.net [1] has published a news about Epson ending the laser printers production while focusing more on inkjet segment from now on, which as they claim are more eco than laser ones. One of the users in the comments says HP already region-locks their cartridges [1] - https://www.ghacks.net/2022/11/29/epson-announces-end-of-laser-printer-production/ https://www.ghacks.net/2022/11/29/epson-announces-end-of-las...
- dexzod 4y agoThis is outrageous. Only a small percentage of owners know this kind of tricks. Imagine the environmental damage created by thousands of users throwing away perfectly usable cartridges. I always feel bad about throwing away laser printer cartridges, they have so many components that are working just fine, there should be a way to just refill the toner and reuse it.
- chaostheory 4y agoIf you think Samsung is bad, HP is much worse. Stay away from HP printers including laser
- onemoresoop 4y agoIs Brother any better? So far happy with my Laser Brother, way happier than the nightmares I've had with inkjet printers. But I have to admit we changed the tonner after less than 2000 pages. I assumed the cartrige had small capacity and didn't arise my suspicions. Should I worry?
- Syonyk 4y agoNo. They just run X pages and assume the cartridge is empty. You can reset it with some faintly annoying incantations, and I'd suggest doing so until you notice actual print quality issues. Especially on black. The logic is... reasonably sound from a print quality perspective. "We know the cartridge can print XXXX pages of reasonable coverage without any fading/dropouts/etc. If the user replaces it at that point, they will never have any print issues." If your goal is "flawless printing," it's a reasonable enough path. It's just not particularly cost effective for the end user. It is, however, cheaper and more profitable than actual toner level sensor/mixing device/etc. But, yes, there's a hidden menu to reset the toner counter on Brother, and in my experience, there's at least another 50% of rated capacity pages lurking in the cartridges unless you print very toner-heavy pages.
- actionfromafar 4y ago
- torben-friis 4y agoThis might be a bit off topic, but what are you guys using all these printers for? Perhaps it’s generational but for me they’re in the same package as landline phones, it’s been years since the last time I’ve seen one.
- stuaxo 4y agoWhen my daughter wants to colour something in its handy. I like to print out tickets sometimes - there's no battery anxiety that way.
- dawnerd 4y agoShipping and fulfillment? Customer invoices/receipts? Physical signatures on docs?
- GekkePrutser 4y agoI use mine less than once a month on average and I'm in my 40s :P I use it for shipping labels, notices to put up, government forms as they are not very digital here. Sometimes a hardcopy of something I'm organizing and want to scribble on. Also tickets and boarding passes as backup for the electronic version. I'm still on the toner that came with the printer (which is half empty to begin with!) years after buying it. I use laser because it doesn't run when it gets wet and because there is no ink to dry out with low usage.
- implements 4y ago“Record keeping” mainly - official returns, paid for professional work product (lawyers, etc) - stuff that you’re obliged to keep, or would cost money to get a new copy of.
- xtiansimon 4y agoI have a printer in my home office only because of work. For work we use QuickBooks Enterprise and it’s oriented to paper checks. More interesting, some tasks are _faster_ when you use a paper print. I’m thinking of processing payrolls. You should verify before authorizing the processor to complete the run. I prefer to not waste paper and routinely verify the PDF on screen. But if things go sideways and I’m under pressure, a hard copy is the way to go. Finally, I do my own vehicle maintenance, and a hard copy of the service manual page is good to have on hand. I could go to Staples for the service manual pages, but for work that’s just a waste of time.