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Customization? On an Apple device? Are you out of your mind?

bell-cot 4y ago
Have you looked at how much stuff there is under Settings on a recent version of iOS? Admittedly it's not the Windows Registry, but...
- TylerE 4y ago
  Sadly it's missing a few things that would be really nice, like being able to turn off the %*(% home bar.
  - chrisseaton 4y ago
    What's the beef with the home bar? Seems pretty innocent?
    - TylerE 4y ago
      Because I absolutey do not need it, and it's infuriating to have a high contrast item in view when using a dark app (Like, say, a video player...)
      - interpol_p 4y ago
        There is an API for developers to use to signal that a view should hide the home indicator [1]. It doesn't guarantee that it will be hidden (the user may have accessibility or other options enabled which take precedence and prefer to display it) When playing fullscreen video on my phone, I do not see the home indicator, as it hides after a short delay due to most developers adopting this API. Just tested in VLC and the home indicator is hidden after about 3 seconds of fullscreen video playback [1] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiviewcontroller/2887510-prefershomeindicatorautohidden https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiviewcontro...
        TylerE 4y ago
        It’s much more problematic on iPad Pro, since lots of devs don’t have one. It’s also geometrically larger, especially in landscape. Getting app developers to fix it is a very mixed bag. One app I use a lot (F1 TV) had had this issue forever, and many many many people have complained to F1 Media about it. They don’t care, apparently, and that’s a high end app that costs upwards of $80/yr Also, erm, Safari. I was actually complaining about this (with a screenshot) just yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=33770571 https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=33770571
        uplifter 4y ago
        As stated in my sibling[0] to your comment, the developer may have limited ability to fix it, since its a preference the system will often override. That said, its literally a one line change to implement it (for each view controller class), so there is little reason for them not to put it in, even with its limited effectiveness. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33781895 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33781895
        interpol_p 4y ago
        This is not the behaviour I am seeing as I compile to my iOS devices right now. The home indicator is consistently hidden on view controllers which adopt this preference, but will reappear whenever a user interacts with the application, only to hide again after a few seconds.
        interpol_p 4y ago
        I agree that it can be annoying if the developer of an app does not adopt the correct behaviours. But in the case of Safari we should not be allowing web developers to hide persistent OS UI elements. The better solution to your screenshot, I think, is to design with safe areas[1] in mind so that the overlap does not occur and persistent OS UI remains accessible. [1] https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x/ https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x...
- sn_master 4y ago
  > Windows Registry That's a term I haven't heard in years. I wonder if anyone still remembers the literal thousands of settings that were possible to change and all the "tweaking" programs that were made for it.
  - implements 4y ago
    Google gpedit.msc if you really want your mind blown.
  - int_19h 4y ago
    Both are still around.
- crossroadsguy 4y ago
  Yes, I have seen. Most of them barely do anything worthwhile. It’s like publishing an entire book in title sized fonts.
amelius 4y ago
"10 minutes ought to be enough for anybody."
- crossroadsguy 4y ago
  “10 minutes just works”
blahedo 4y ago
I recognise the current truth of this, but I feel a deep wave of sadness as I remember that the computer to have in the 90s if you wanted to customise evvvvvvery little thing was a Mac. A ton of custom aspects were available right in the base system, plus of course a seemingly infinite array of inits and cdevs to tweak things, and finally you could resort to ResEdit to modify anything by hand. Apple fell so far in the 2000s and especially the 2010s from that ideal.

Have you looked at how much stuff there is under Settings on a recent version of iOS? Admittedly it's not the Windows Registry, but...

TylerE 4y ago
Sadly it's missing a few things that would be really nice, like being able to turn off the %*(% home bar.
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  What's the beef with the home bar? Seems pretty innocent?
  - TylerE 4y ago
    Because I absolutey do not need it, and it's infuriating to have a high contrast item in view when using a dark app (Like, say, a video player...)
    - interpol_p 4y ago
      There is an API for developers to use to signal that a view should hide the home indicator [1]. It doesn't guarantee that it will be hidden (the user may have accessibility or other options enabled which take precedence and prefer to display it) When playing fullscreen video on my phone, I do not see the home indicator, as it hides after a short delay due to most developers adopting this API. Just tested in VLC and the home indicator is hidden after about 3 seconds of fullscreen video playback [1] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiviewcontroller/2887510-prefershomeindicatorautohidden https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiviewcontro...
      - TylerE 4y ago
        It’s much more problematic on iPad Pro, since lots of devs don’t have one. It’s also geometrically larger, especially in landscape. Getting app developers to fix it is a very mixed bag. One app I use a lot (F1 TV) had had this issue forever, and many many many people have complained to F1 Media about it. They don’t care, apparently, and that’s a high end app that costs upwards of $80/yr Also, erm, Safari. I was actually complaining about this (with a screenshot) just yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=33770571 https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=33770571
        uplifter 4y ago
        As stated in my sibling[0] to your comment, the developer may have limited ability to fix it, since its a preference the system will often override. That said, its literally a one line change to implement it (for each view controller class), so there is little reason for them not to put it in, even with its limited effectiveness. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33781895 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33781895
        interpol_p 4y ago
        This is not the behaviour I am seeing as I compile to my iOS devices right now. The home indicator is consistently hidden on view controllers which adopt this preference, but will reappear whenever a user interacts with the application, only to hide again after a few seconds.
        interpol_p 4y ago
        I agree that it can be annoying if the developer of an app does not adopt the correct behaviours. But in the case of Safari we should not be allowing web developers to hide persistent OS UI elements. The better solution to your screenshot, I think, is to design with safe areas[1] in mind so that the overlap does not occur and persistent OS UI remains accessible. [1] https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x/ https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x...
sn_master 4y ago
> Windows Registry That's a term I haven't heard in years. I wonder if anyone still remembers the literal thousands of settings that were possible to change and all the "tweaking" programs that were made for it.
- implements 4y ago
  Google gpedit.msc if you really want your mind blown.
- int_19h 4y ago
  Both are still around.
crossroadsguy 4y ago
Yes, I have seen. Most of them barely do anything worthwhile. It’s like publishing an entire book in title sized fonts.

amelius 4y ago

"10 minutes ought to be enough for anybody."

crossroadsguy 4y ago
“10 minutes just works”

blahedo 4y ago

I recognise the current truth of this, but I feel a deep wave of sadness as I remember that the computer to have in the 90s if you wanted to customise evvvvvvery little thing was a Mac. A ton of custom aspects were available right in the base system, plus of course a seemingly infinite array of inits and cdevs to tweak things, and finally you could resort to ResEdit to modify anything by hand. Apple fell so far in the 2000s and especially the 2010s from that ideal.