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Having worked in BigCo land for 20 years, your estimates are way off. There are F500s that have 1k mainframes each, today, in 2022.
by chevman 4y ago
Having worked in BigCo land for 20 years, your estimates are way off.
There are F500s that have 1k mainframes each, today, in 2022.
- x0n 4y agoThank you for setting that straight. The more I read through the answer, the more ludicrous it became.
- 1500100900 4y agoSo you DO search for answers to mainframe questions on s**overflow?
- pc86 4y agoThere should be a way to flag and remove comments that don't violate any guidelines, but are just objectively wrong, in a way that doesn't penalize the author. Like "you tried, but nothing about this is correct, so it goes to the bottom of the comment section above all the dead/shadowbanned comments."
- ballenf 4y agoI prefer the back-and-forth the way it is now. I perversely enjoy reading a comment and "buying into it" only to realize from a reply that I was naive or too trusting. Or, at least, that there are more angles to the story. This helps you build up an immune system that is skeptical. If most wrong answers were removed/flagged/hidden then the remaining wrong but unflagged would be even more a problem.
- tejohnso 4y agoExactly. This helps train the "don't believe everything you read" muscle.
- edgyquant 4y agoSure for the percentage of people who do read all the way through and then rethink things. This is <1% in most communities
- setr 4y agoAssuming everyone is an idiot, and designing around that basis, seems like a great way to foster a community of idiots. And unlike stackoverflow, there’s not really any good reason for anyone to think a top-level comment is somehow authoritative, especially because the best comments on HN tend to be replies
- CRConrad 4y ago> I perversely enjoy reading a comment and "buying into it" only to realize from a reply that I was naive or too trusting. Good for debate and free speech in general, but bad for your grasp of the facts in the case every time there don't happen to be any corrective replies. Hard to weighs pros vs cons. (ObSillyPun: Naah, just put them on the scales! But remember that a lighter pro will often beat a heavier con anyway!)
- Melatonic 4y agoIs reply and downvote not enough?
- pc86 4y agoI want to avoid the downvotes, though. Downvoting is for things that are off topic or don't add to the conversation, or comments made in bad faith. Someone who just happens to be wrong may very well be commenting earnestly in good faith.
- raarts 4y agoYour bullshit detector should be trained continuously, not put to sleep by others labeling a post true or not. A dangerous path.
- sremani 4y agothere are many medium size banks that have a mainframe or two at the heart of their system.
- tgv 4y agoEven small banks. Basically every bank that was around 20 or 30 years ago started with mainframes (or very large minis) and still uses them. I'm not in that business, but I've seen the server rooms, and I haven't heard of a bank switching over to a rack of PCs, yet. There might be, but that would still hundreds, perhaps a thousand banks in Europe alone running on large-ish iron. There might be less mainframes in total, though. The bank where my parents worked had 4 at different sites, but now runs on a single one, AFAIK.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoUnisys ClearPath Dorado is just a fancy Xeon machine running an emulator.
- freitasm 4y agoBut the OS, database, network definition and workflow languages are still proprietary. Which goes back to the original question: where is that knowledge store/discussed?
- rejectfinite 4y agoInside the company. Not gonna be a youtube tutorial lmao
- Moissanite 4y ago"Sup nerds, today we're going to be writing some COBOL, but first don't forget to hit the bell and smash that subscribe button..."
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- Kye 4y agoIt seems like their point still stands. If there were 100 million mainframes, x86 would still have more, and the standards for skills and experience would still be different due to the nature of deployment.