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Evidence needed: define "dangerous" in terms of micromorts based on what BMR and demographics (i.e., age, BMI, FFMI, height, gender)? There are risks to ponder
by sacnoradhq 4y ago
Evidence needed: define "dangerous" in terms of micromorts based on what BMR and demographics (i.e., age, BMI, FFMI, height, gender)?
There are risks to ponder about how critical (e.g., time vs. dangers) it is to get to a healthy weight. If someone dangerously obese maintains hydration, electrolytes, vitamins, and enough lipids to empty the gallbladder, getting to a low adipose tissue state, resetting insulin, ghrelin, and leptin sensitivities, and reducing the likelier risks of cancer(s) seems like a good tradeoff than either lap-band surgery or slow/plateau weight reductions.
Intense hunger goes away after about 72-80 hours of "starvation", however brain fog and low energy dominate. Careful "starvation" dieting down to slightly underweight isn't something one can do without several months of spare time, ready access to healthcare, and immense self-control. Afterwards, self-control is absolutely required to avoid binge cycles.
GLP-1 agonists are expensive but interesting crutches to get there slowly.
It is likely that over millions of years of natural selection, the human body is far more tolerant of borderline starvation conditions than being stuffed with HFCS. Many types of cancers associated with Western diets are likely due to the human body becoming more hospitable, whereas chemotherapy and starvation add cellular stress that kills off malfunctioning cells. It's likely no accident whereas CHD, gout, diabetes, high cholesterol, and cancers are the consequent of unnatural diets and lifestyles.
- Scoundreller 4y ago> GLP-1 agonists are expensive but interesting crutches to get there slowly. Why stop at getting rid of glucose? Add some plasma donations and orlistat. Now you've got balanced macro loss! (don't do this)
- sacnoradhq 4y agoI was thinking about grafting on a rapidly-dividing, malignant neoplasm. (I actually donate whole blood and platelets often.) If someone were carrying around an extra 250 Mcal in adipose tissue, multiple factors determine what their risk budget could/should be to downsize to a suitable homeostatic state.