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He didn't die in prison.

kasey_junk 4y ago
He didn’t die in prison but did die of problems he developed in prison.
alistairSH 4y ago
Debs was 64 when sentenced to 10 years in prison. He likely would have died there if Harding had not commuted his sentence to time served. As noted, Debs eventually passed from health problems developed while imprisoned.
MarkMarine 4y ago
The “liberal” Oliver Wendell Holmes, speaking for a unanimous Supreme Court, upheld the verdict, on the ground that Debs’ speech was intended to obstruct military recruiting. The “liberal” Woodrow Wilson, with the war over, and Debs still in prison, 65, and in poor health, turned down his Attorney General’s recommendation that Debs be released. He was in prison for 32 months, and then in 1921, the Republican Warren Harding ordered him freed on Christmas Day.
- shadowgovt 4y ago
  Therefore, he didn't die in prison.
  - MarkMarine 4y ago
- not2b 4y ago
  Wilson, liberal? Besides nearly eradicating the 1st Amendment, he was a promoter of the KKK and did his best to reverse any gains Black Americans had made that hadn't already been erased.
  - MarkMarine 4y ago
    That’s why it’s in quotes, but if you start reading the cliffs notes version of history, he is the father of liberalism or some permutation of that. I agree with you, he was a monster.
    - yywwbbn 4y ago
      If anyone has to be the ‘father’ of ‘liberalism’ it’s Roosevelt who lost the election to Wilson.
  - smsm42 4y ago
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He didn’t die in prison but did die of problems he developed in prison.

Debs was 64 when sentenced to 10 years in prison. He likely would have died there if Harding had not commuted his sentence to time served. As noted, Debs eventually passed from health problems developed while imprisoned.

MarkMarine 4y ago

The “liberal” Oliver Wendell Holmes, speaking for a unanimous Supreme Court, upheld the verdict, on the ground that Debs’ speech was intended to obstruct military recruiting. The “liberal” Woodrow Wilson, with the war over, and Debs still in prison, 65, and in poor health, turned down his Attorney General’s recommendation that Debs be released. He was in prison for 32 months, and then in 1921, the Republican Warren Harding ordered him freed on Christmas Day.

shadowgovt 4y ago
Therefore, he didn't die in prison.
- MarkMarine 4y ago
not2b 4y ago
Wilson, liberal? Besides nearly eradicating the 1st Amendment, he was a promoter of the KKK and did his best to reverse any gains Black Americans had made that hadn't already been erased.
- MarkMarine 4y ago
  That’s why it’s in quotes, but if you start reading the cliffs notes version of history, he is the father of liberalism or some permutation of that. I agree with you, he was a monster.
  - yywwbbn 4y ago
    If anyone has to be the ‘father’ of ‘liberalism’ it’s Roosevelt who lost the election to Wilson.
- smsm42 4y ago
  - MarkMarine 4y ago
    - smsm42 4y ago
      - dang 4y ago
        Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes everything worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dang 4y ago
      Could you please stop breaking the site guidelines? You've done that quite badly here and at least one other place in this thread. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.