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A few thoughts: 1. The internet means we have many forms of entertainment available without needing to go anywhere. 2. Many of those are social activities, ev
by ilaksh 4y ago
A few thoughts:
1. The internet means we have many forms of entertainment available without needing to go anywhere.
2. Many of those are social activities, even though we are physically alone. This is completely different from being totally isolated (as implied by the article).
3. The declining economic situation affects the ability of people to pursue leisure activities that would involve actually going somewhere that we might meet up with others.
I believe that within a few years, comfortable AR and VR goggles and glasses will come out, and they will pick up mass adoption. This will lead to a huge increase in social activities, and they will be almost equivalent to truly being in person, especially once eye-tracking becomes popular. Virtual environments and AR teleportation using things like neural radiance fields will be quite realistic.
- fdhfdjkfhdkj 4y ago
- nullish_signal 4y ago"The bad economy means you can't meet people in real life. But soon, everyone will buy VR goggles and hang out on rented servers!" Am I mis-understanding something here? Just go on a hike, walking is free.
- nibbleshifter 4y ago> Just go on a hike, walking is free. If the webshits on here could work out a way to monetize hiking, they will.
- asdff 4y agoIt won't be long until some drone based sky billboard company emerges from the ether, strongarms/bribes local government into allowing its exclusive use, and then you are tracked as you walk your hiking trail by a herd of advertising drones that cost just a dime less than the hypothetical number they generate from your annoyed, halfway focused attention. It's coming. I hope some good people here on HN are working on an open source 3d printed EMP cannon.
- varelse 4y ago
- preommr 4y agohttps://blog.onepeloton.com/hike-workouts/ https://blog.onepeloton.com/hike-workouts/
- Animats 4y agoOne word: Fitbit.
- ilaksh 4y agoYour reply is disingenuous because it implies that you truly think that there aren't a large number of social engagements that involve purchases. There are, such as restaurants, bars, facilities like bowling, trips, etc. Of course people can go on a hike. I am saying that the other stuff is less accessible for many people during an economic downturn.
- dinosaurdynasty 4y agoYou actually meet people going out walking?
- rossdavidh 4y agoThat is a pretty nightmarish scenario you're predicting, there, was that sarcasm?
- ilaksh 4y agoPeople didn't read into it fairly, they deliberately misread what I was saying. I was not saying that people won't go back to meeting in person. I am saying that the online meetings will become more realistic. I probably should not waste time commenting. Total lack of imagination or fairness in interpreting comments.
- rossdavidh 4y agoI'm sorry, I didn't intend to make anyone feel bad (that was not sarcasm). But, I really am concerned about the amount of screen isolation already in evidence (I say, as I type this onto my laptop), and I'm not sure why we would want more temptations to increase that.
- dinosaurdynasty 4y agoIs currently life not nightmarish for meaningful amounts of people? Admittedly this doesn't solve a lot of fundamental problems, but we might not be able to/not want to, and at least it will help some people?
- gherkinnn 4y agoI find this very hard to believe. Real interactions are so rich, how could these goggles even hope to get there in a few years? What is having dinner together if you didn’t even eat the same? And this is the most banal example I could think of. I’d sooner become an actual hermit than to share a soggy McD burger over VR.
- JKCalhoun 4y agoCome on, social interactions will be like all of us at a masquerade party. What could be more personal?
- ilaksh 4y agoNo, its not the most banal, its the one that most obviously doesn't translate. Of course its not the same as being in person. But it can be much closer than people realize. As I said, eye-tracking will be built in, so there will be eye contact. The environment renderings and avatars will be realistic. You can already do really interesting interactions such as table tennis and tabletop RPG games such as Demeo.
- gherkinnn 4y agoThis is like optimising porn over actually having sex. It’s ridiculous. All the robots and goggles can’t hope to recreate the real thing. And this is way harder to solve than dinner.
- TeMPOraL 4y agoBad example. Porn these days is a super-stimulus, and for many can be better than the real thing - little to no costs and effort required, has all the upsides, and none of the downsides.
- dinosaurdynasty 4y agoI imagine this would be great for disabled/chronically ill people who otherwise don't have the time/energy to reliably do this kind of stuff irl (Or people that are otherwise unable to find people they relate with irl, for whatever reason)
- JKCalhoun 4y ago> 2. Many of those are social activities, even though we are physically alone. This is completely different from being totally isolated (as implied by the article). This is also completely different from being physically with others.