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Is government involvement problematic? Many firms have government involvement, often in an under the table manner. For example Airbus. Government involvement is

Is government involvement problematic? Many firms have government involvement, often in an under the table manner. For example Airbus. Government involvement is in itself no grounds for banning a company.

chitowneats 4y ago
When that government is actively stealing your intellectual property, hacking your computer systems and installing ransomware, threatening war against an important ally... And when the product is telecommunications technology... I'm going with yes. The EU and the PRC are not even remotely comparable from the perspective of the U.S.
rgbrenner 4y ago
These companies have a board of Communist Party members that approve all company decisions/actions.
- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  Even American companies in China have a Party cell. This is the law for all companies above a certain size. Those cells do not 'approve all company decisions'.
  - aworks 4y ago
    On a business trip to China, I accidentally walked into our company's Communist Party meeting (and was politely encouraged to quickly leave). I have no idea if company-specific discussion ever occurred. Our office was mostly junior engineers so company decisions wouldn't be made at that level in any case.
galdosdi 4y ago
Airbus is a French company. France is part of NATO. In the event of war, France and the US would likely be obligated to be on the same side by their NATO treaty obligations. I don't think you are very informed on this matter.
- JPLeRouzic 4y ago
  Airbus is not anymore a French or Netherland company (Airbus Group N.V). Since 27 May 2015 the company became a Societas Europaea (SE) (Latin: European Company). https://lexpansion.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/actualite-economique/airbus-group-adopte-le-statut-de-societe-europeenne_1683793.html https://lexpansion.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/actualite-econom...
MattGaiser 4y ago
Which government is involved is what matters here. The governments involved in Airbus are allies.
JPLeRouzic 4y ago
Like United Fruits (now Chiquita) with CIA? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

chitowneats 4y ago

When that government is actively stealing your intellectual property, hacking your computer systems and installing ransomware, threatening war against an important ally... And when the product is telecommunications technology... I'm going with yes. The EU and the PRC are not even remotely comparable from the perspective of the U.S.

rgbrenner 4y ago

These companies have a board of Communist Party members that approve all company decisions/actions.

mytailorisrich 4y ago
Even American companies in China have a Party cell. This is the law for all companies above a certain size. Those cells do not 'approve all company decisions'.
- aworks 4y ago
  On a business trip to China, I accidentally walked into our company's Communist Party meeting (and was politely encouraged to quickly leave). I have no idea if company-specific discussion ever occurred. Our office was mostly junior engineers so company decisions wouldn't be made at that level in any case.

galdosdi 4y ago

Airbus is a French company. France is part of NATO. In the event of war, France and the US would likely be obligated to be on the same side by their NATO treaty obligations. I don't think you are very informed on this matter.

JPLeRouzic 4y ago
Airbus is not anymore a French or Netherland company (Airbus Group N.V). Since 27 May 2015 the company became a Societas Europaea (SE) (Latin: European Company). https://lexpansion.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/actualite-economique/airbus-group-adopte-le-statut-de-societe-europeenne_1683793.html https://lexpansion.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/actualite-econom...

MattGaiser 4y ago

Which government is involved is what matters here. The governments involved in Airbus are allies.

JPLeRouzic 4y ago

Like United Fruits (now Chiquita) with CIA? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company