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> Obviously the US (and other countries) do not have similar levels of trust and cooperation with China, hence these sort of responses. So now the US gets to d
by Kukumber 4y ago
> Obviously the US (and other countries) do not have similar levels of trust and cooperation with China, hence these sort of responses.
So now the US gets to decide who is worthy of becoming your friend?
What's next?
- surfpel 4y agoNow? That’s been the policy for probably longer than you’ve been alive. (Assuming you’re under the age of 70 or so)
- kadoban 4y agoThe US can decide who its allies are, other countries can do the same for themselves. What are you even objecting to here?
- Kukumber 4y agoHave you been sleeping for the past 20 years? https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/the-impact-of-us-sanctions-on-european-goods-a-closer-look/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/the-impac...
- kadoban 4y ago> Have you been sleeping for the past 20 years? Only about a third of them. > https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/the-impact-of-us-sanctions-on-european-goods-a-closer-look/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/the-impac... Sorry, I'm not following how that relates to really anything in the current conversation.
- Kukumber 4y agothe US promotes liberalism for others, but internally they promote their very own interests double face after blocking you from doing commerce with their enemies through multitudes of sanctions and lobbies, they'll start to punish you if you try to protect your interests To quote the article: "Washington announced on Wednesday (2 October) that it would hit European products with punitive tariffs worth $7.5 billion after receiving the green light from the World Trade Organization (WTO), following a 15-year legal battle between aircraft manufacturers Boeing and Airbus."
- kadoban 4y agoI still don't get the specific objection here. The USA argues for its own interests, and is inconsistent, at best, on persuing principles in the rest of the world. Yes this is selfish and annoying. But what does that have to do with the decision at hand?
- iso1631 4y agoThere are a lot of people on HN arguing against sanctioning Russia for invading a sovereign state, they believe that the west should just turn a blind eye to it. It's quite interesting, it's pretty much the only place on the internet I encounter such posts.
- kadoban 4y agoThat's a common stance in right-leaning circles, unfortunately.
- anon291 4y agoLetting Europeans deal with Europe was the stance for all of American history until WWII.
- kadoban 4y agoIt was a very common stance until the world changed and we learned better, yeah.
- skorpeon87 4y agoA lot of Americans are American because their European ancestors got sick of European affairs and wanted a clean break from it. Nonetheless, a lot of the anti-interventionist rhetoric seen on the net today feels very astroturfed. Anybody accusing NATO of warmongering is safe to write off as a Russian-aligned troll, considering Russia is the one who actually invaded a foreign country. NATO's "war mongering" amounts to offering sanctuary to the countries with a rational fear of being invaded by Russia.
- zokar 4y agoIn other words, one is not allowed to speculate about a different outcome if NATO hadn't pushed forward so aggressively. The realism school of Mearsheimer is forbidden. Freedom of thought is one of the first casualties of the war.
- qeternity 4y agoThis is an article about the US deciding who the US is friends with. So I’m not really sure where your apparent outrage is originating.