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Are you saying that, basically, twitter and its workforce deserved this, and we all do, and people like Gergely should just fall in line and realize that?

jdmoreira 4y ago
Yeah, that's exactly what I said. /s In all seriousness... Times change, this was bound to happen. Does it matter whose fault it is? Be adaptable and accept reality outside your control. Whoever fault it is doesn't change the reality of the situation.
- encoderer 4y ago
  You are treating this as a natural disaster when in reality it’s entirely man made. We know exactly whose fault this is. You can’t hand wave it all away as “times are tough”.
  - jdmoreira 4y ago
    Ok, whose fault was it? List 10 people who are responsible for the whole chaotic system we call "The Economy". It's been decades we still don't know who was responsible for the 08 Financial Crisis nor the Great Depression. Besides of course hand waving "greedy bankers", "unregulated speculative markets". Is it man made? Yes. But it's also a chaotic system like the weather.
    - encoderer 4y ago
      Are you blaming layoffs on interest rates again? The fault of the layoffs is that somebody did a leveraged buyout. These have been terrible for workers and customers across all parts of our economy. Twitter like many companies over hired during COVID and layoffs are healthy. I don’t think you can call the process at twitter anything but destructive. Everybody hated LBOs when they were done by IBankers trying to make fees. Elon doing it is just as destructive.
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      - jdmoreira 4y ago
        > are you blaming layoffs on interest rates again? Or the absolute idiocracy that is Venture Capital and growth at all costs. Or the middle managers at these companies that spent their time growing their influence to play politics and status / power games. Or you know, the average person who puts money aside on their 401K who in turn needs money managers who in turn end up partially funding venture capital... It's chaotic. You can't point the finger at any single person or class and "blame them". It's a complex system made of many moving parts and somehow poorly understood incentives. But you seem to have it all figured out. Good luck!
    - ncr100 4y ago
      That's why we make laws, policies, and norms. Event driven behavioral dictates if you want to avoid being confused by "Chaos." Don't accept abuse or the abuser. Fight back.
- ncr100 4y ago
  This is not Nature sending a storm. It's humans, causing pain for other humans. We have policies, laws, norms .. all categories have been violated repeatedly by Musk in this episode. He's out of balance with humanity.

jdmoreira 4y ago

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. /s In all seriousness... Times change, this was bound to happen. Does it matter whose fault it is? Be adaptable and accept reality outside your control. Whoever fault it is doesn't change the reality of the situation.

encoderer 4y ago
You are treating this as a natural disaster when in reality it’s entirely man made. We know exactly whose fault this is. You can’t hand wave it all away as “times are tough”.
- jdmoreira 4y ago
  Ok, whose fault was it? List 10 people who are responsible for the whole chaotic system we call "The Economy". It's been decades we still don't know who was responsible for the 08 Financial Crisis nor the Great Depression. Besides of course hand waving "greedy bankers", "unregulated speculative markets". Is it man made? Yes. But it's also a chaotic system like the weather.
  - encoderer 4y ago
    Are you blaming layoffs on interest rates again? The fault of the layoffs is that somebody did a leveraged buyout. These have been terrible for workers and customers across all parts of our economy. Twitter like many companies over hired during COVID and layoffs are healthy. I don’t think you can call the process at twitter anything but destructive. Everybody hated LBOs when they were done by IBankers trying to make fees. Elon doing it is just as destructive.
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    - jdmoreira 4y ago
      > are you blaming layoffs on interest rates again? Or the absolute idiocracy that is Venture Capital and growth at all costs. Or the middle managers at these companies that spent their time growing their influence to play politics and status / power games. Or you know, the average person who puts money aside on their 401K who in turn needs money managers who in turn end up partially funding venture capital... It's chaotic. You can't point the finger at any single person or class and "blame them". It's a complex system made of many moving parts and somehow poorly understood incentives. But you seem to have it all figured out. Good luck!
  - ncr100 4y ago
    That's why we make laws, policies, and norms. Event driven behavioral dictates if you want to avoid being confused by "Chaos." Don't accept abuse or the abuser. Fight back.
ncr100 4y ago
This is not Nature sending a storm. It's humans, causing pain for other humans. We have policies, laws, norms .. all categories have been violated repeatedly by Musk in this episode. He's out of balance with humanity.