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Emperor Charles V's code cracked after five centuries
- fsckboy 4y ago> In another obstacle, [Charles] used meaningless symbols to mislead any adversary trying to decipher the message. how do we know these extra symbols aren't the real message, disguised behind a weakly encrypted run of the mill assassination plot. (who wasn't plotting against Charles V?) otherwise, the article doesn't go into enough detail about the de/cipher
- user3939382 4y agoWhat did the letter say??? This is like those articles about a painting and no graphic of the painting.
- thunderbong 4y agoWould I be right in assuming that Charles proxy monitor [0] got it's name from Charles V? [0]: https://www.charlesproxy.com https://www.charlesproxy.com
- dr_dshiv 4y agoIt’s cool to see the work on cryptography at that time. A lot of really interesting people were doing it. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279608179_The_rise_of_cryptology_in_the_European_Renaissance https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279608179_The_rise_...
- MonkeyClub 4y agoTrithemius in particular stands out for me. His steganography was ingenious, concealed not just behind steganographical techniques, but also by a double veil of taboo and law: it presented itself as demonology, thus pious readers would avoid it altogether, and impious ones would think twice, given the power and reach of the Inquisition. Brilliant!
- taylorius 4y agoPossible upgrade to the HTTPS protocol? :-)
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoJust pretend to be a teapot. It'll fool everybody.
- deafpolygon 4y agoWorked in Beauty and the Beast (Disney version)!
- pbhjpbhj 4y ago418
- m0llusk 4y agoWhich dovetails with the way Charles V operated. Completely unlike egotist leaders who insist on doing things themselves, Charles V was fabulously rich, knew the power of money, and contracted everything out to the most talented people he could find. Even his grand strategies were contracted out to accomplished strategists. And he didn't attach himself to any particular idea or move. At one point he messed up and a force of his numbering around 20k was destroyed. In public at least he simply shrugged it off and went back to planning world domination. His history is full of fascinating tales of the machinations of imperial power.
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- wolpoli 4y agoIt would be nice if they included the actual letter in the article. After all, the copyright on it would have long expired, right?
- OneLeggedCat 4y agoWell yes it would have, but Congress keeps extending it.
- euroderf 4y agoThe long reach of Disney.
- lyu07282 4y agoWell it's the guardian, they didn't even link the study, naturally.
- speedgoose 4y agoJournalists are allergic to external links unless they are ads. They need to keeps visitors inside their website to display ads or redirect them to ads, but not anything else.
- frosted-flakes 4y agoThe Guardian does frequently link to other publications though.
- joshspankit 4y agoJournalists as defined in the post-24hr-news-network era
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y agoYet people will keep arguing that obscurity is a useless additional layer to security.
- unnouinceput 4y agoNobody does that. On the contrary, all infosec people will say the exact opposite: "obscurity, as an additional layer to cryptography, is very much desired". What they say is to not rely for your secrets only on obscurity.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y agoYes the classical response of "it doesn't happen"/"no one says that", mind you someone will come argue that exact point in the next conversation I have on the topic, like the ten previous conversations I've had on the topic.
- mdp2021 4y agoWhen you read 'Nobody does that', it is a shortening of "Nobody [credible] does that[, until a revolutionary argument is provided]". Random opinions are collected from the bar, and that is a place where you go voluntarily. Of course you will always find people defending any possible position. Frequently, historically, it had not even been a rational stance out of a rational instance. There even exist games on it: defending random positions a an exercise for rhetoric and forum practice; Richard Osman invented one for television, named "I could not disagree more" (e.g. «We should avoid a third world war» // «I could not disagree more. If a war is inevitable, I will prefer it to be waged in the "Third World"». Absurdity on absurdity).
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y agoIt's very rhetorically convenient how extreme positions become shortenings of very carefully qualified statements when questioned. As for the subject matter, it's a position I've seen defended on here. Sure it's random people, it's also a forum of software engineering professionals, you're not going to contribute much if you write-off everyone who disagrees with you as "non-credible".
- mdp2021 4y agoIt is possible that this other article offers more content https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/charles-v-letter-0017577 https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/cha...