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Found the conservative. I've met plenty of people who work two or more jobs and barely scrape by. God forbid someone gets really sick. You're right that worki

Found the conservative. I've met plenty of people who work two or more jobs and barely scrape by. God forbid someone gets really sick. You're right that working yourself to the bone will improve your quality of life if you start from the very bottom. You're wrong in that many people are in an lower to middle class life cycle and no amount of working hard will improve their situation.

thepasswordis 4y ago
I don’t know what you mean by conservative, but if you mean: “support working class people” then yes you caught me. I wish people just spent more time around these communities they want to talk about. If you’re honestly going to tell me that you’re spending time around working class first generation immigrants, (my experience is working specifically with Mexicans) and not seeing a very strong obvious positive correlation between hard work and success, then I just frankly don’t believe you.
nonethewiser 4y ago
> Found the conservative. What do you think this signals to people? That he may be conservative. > I've met plenty of people who work two or more jobs and barely scrape by. God forbid someone gets really sick. Yeah and you could work really hard for free and not scrape by at all. It's not that all hard work results in higher income, it's that working hard __to raise your income__ tends to raise your income.
- Arainach 4y ago
  Our society is built on the backs of those who work hard at things that don't raise their income. Why should they have any hope? This is the same crowd that told all food service workers to "get a real job" and then go out and complain that Starbucks is having trouble retaining workers.
chasd00 4y ago
> Found the conservative. that's a ridiculous statement and doesn't belong here. Hard work is required for success but not all hard work will lead you there. You have to know where to work hard and that comes from identifying and fighting for opportunities. Lots of first gen immigrants do this very well. If didn't work hard to leverage opportunities presented to them then they wouldn't be first-gen immigrants to begin with.

thepasswordis 4y ago

I don’t know what you mean by conservative, but if you mean: “support working class people” then yes you caught me. I wish people just spent more time around these communities they want to talk about. If you’re honestly going to tell me that you’re spending time around working class first generation immigrants, (my experience is working specifically with Mexicans) and not seeing a very strong obvious positive correlation between hard work and success, then I just frankly don’t believe you.

nonethewiser 4y ago

> Found the conservative. What do you think this signals to people? That he may be conservative. > I've met plenty of people who work two or more jobs and barely scrape by. God forbid someone gets really sick. Yeah and you could work really hard for free and not scrape by at all. It's not that all hard work results in higher income, it's that working hard __to raise your income__ tends to raise your income.

Arainach 4y ago
Our society is built on the backs of those who work hard at things that don't raise their income. Why should they have any hope? This is the same crowd that told all food service workers to "get a real job" and then go out and complain that Starbucks is having trouble retaining workers.

chasd00 4y ago

> Found the conservative. that's a ridiculous statement and doesn't belong here. Hard work is required for success but not all hard work will lead you there. You have to know where to work hard and that comes from identifying and fighting for opportunities. Lots of first gen immigrants do this very well. If didn't work hard to leverage opportunities presented to them then they wouldn't be first-gen immigrants to begin with.