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The murder rate in nearby Detroit is double that of Chicago. None of the cities with a higher murder rate than Chicago have a great reputation.

dangus 4y ago
Disagree. Indianapolis, Atlanta, San Bernardino, Dayton (OH) don't have the same negative stigma.
- bluedino 4y ago
  They don't have the headlines of '60 people shot this weekend' because they have far less shootings. But they definitely have the high crime reputation. https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/georgia/report-puts-atlanta-among-the-50-worst-cities-to-live-in-the-country/93-564459928 https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/georgia/report-put... While Atlanta has experienced substantial economic and population growth in recent years, the city's high violent crime rate continues to hinder the area's quality of life. There were 1,084 violent crimes reported in 2016 per 100,000 Atlanta residents, nearly three times the national violent crime rate of 386 incidents per 100,000 Americans.
  - dangus 4y ago
    These headlines are something that leads to people surveyed consistently misstating and exaggerating Chicago as being #1 in crime. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/upshot/murder-crime-trends-chicago.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/upshot/murder-crime-trend... More than half of people in the survey think Chicago is #1, when it's not! There's a big difference between people understanding that Atlanta or DC have generally high crime, versus crime being a nationally-recognized brand and identity like it is for Chicago.
    - bluedino 4y ago
      But my original point is that Atlanta does have a reputation for high crime. DC having even more of a bad reputation. Chicago having the most murders is true. That's what they are known for. Breaking down by per-capita doesn't change anything.
      - dangus 4y ago
        Breaking down per capita is the most important thing you can possibly do, it’s the opposite of “doesn’t change anything.” Hey did you know there are more murders in Europe per year than in Chicago? Europe is more dangerous than Chicago!! ^ That’s why per capita is the most important consideration. (Another problem with comparing cities directly is the borders of city limits and metropolitan statistical areas but that’s a whole different topic)
      - tptacek 4y ago
        And me I thought we were mostly known for hot dogs.
        kasey_junk 4y ago
        Interesting use of we there buster. I know where the city limit line is…
        tptacek 4y ago
        If you can throw a paper airplane from your property line to the border you get to say you're from there. Also, I grew up there!

dangus 4y ago

Disagree. Indianapolis, Atlanta, San Bernardino, Dayton (OH) don't have the same negative stigma.

bluedino 4y ago
They don't have the headlines of '60 people shot this weekend' because they have far less shootings. But they definitely have the high crime reputation. https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/georgia/report-puts-atlanta-among-the-50-worst-cities-to-live-in-the-country/93-564459928 https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/georgia/report-put... While Atlanta has experienced substantial economic and population growth in recent years, the city's high violent crime rate continues to hinder the area's quality of life. There were 1,084 violent crimes reported in 2016 per 100,000 Atlanta residents, nearly three times the national violent crime rate of 386 incidents per 100,000 Americans.
- dangus 4y ago
  These headlines are something that leads to people surveyed consistently misstating and exaggerating Chicago as being #1 in crime. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/upshot/murder-crime-trends-chicago.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/upshot/murder-crime-trend... More than half of people in the survey think Chicago is #1, when it's not! There's a big difference between people understanding that Atlanta or DC have generally high crime, versus crime being a nationally-recognized brand and identity like it is for Chicago.
  - bluedino 4y ago
    But my original point is that Atlanta does have a reputation for high crime. DC having even more of a bad reputation. Chicago having the most murders is true. That's what they are known for. Breaking down by per-capita doesn't change anything.
    - dangus 4y ago
      Breaking down per capita is the most important thing you can possibly do, it’s the opposite of “doesn’t change anything.” Hey did you know there are more murders in Europe per year than in Chicago? Europe is more dangerous than Chicago!! ^ That’s why per capita is the most important consideration. (Another problem with comparing cities directly is the borders of city limits and metropolitan statistical areas but that’s a whole different topic)
    - tptacek 4y ago
      And me I thought we were mostly known for hot dogs.
      - kasey_junk 4y ago
        Interesting use of we there buster. I know where the city limit line is…
        tptacek 4y ago
        If you can throw a paper airplane from your property line to the border you get to say you're from there. Also, I grew up there!