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Adobe now requires you to purchase a subscription to rotate PDF pages
- bfgoodrich 4y ago
- tyiz 4y agoWhat is a good alternative. one that doesn’t look like it intern project?
- sam345 4y agoFoxit
- mirzap 4y agoI use Foxit reader. It's free and cross platform with great UI.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y agoAgreed. I’m 80% at requiring it for anyone at the company that doesn’t need full acrobat to create PDFs. And even then I’m close to pushing the version of FoxIt that does that.
- DieBruderBauer 4y agoI like SumatraPDF. It's minimalist, to be sure, but it won't let you down.
- bleomycin 4y agoMaster PDF. Cross platform even native linux support.
- kukx 4y agoYou can view PDF files in most Internet browsers.
- teaearlgraycold 4y agopdf.js!
- tunapizza 4y agoI wish most browsers also allowed users to annotate, rotate, and manipulate PDFs. The solutions mentioned in this thread will work, though!
- henriquecm8 4y agoI just tested and Edge, you can annotate, highlight and draw over it, and it will save, but rotating it is temporary.
- xnx 4y agoPDF viewing: Chrome PDF editing: LibreOffice
- Technetium 4y agoIn chrome://flags you can search for "PDF" and enable the following: Performs OCR on inaccessible PDFs, PDF XFA support, Accessible PDF Forms, Enable Region Search on PDF viewer.
- UFOFlyer 4y agoOkular from KDE project, they have a windows release too.
- mxuribe 4y agoI use okular and it works great on linux. Once in a while PDFs with forms display funny, or some minor challenges with data entry....but not sure if the issue is how the pdf was made or if okular. Nevertheless, i really like it. Plus as stated, a few KDE applications like okular happliy can be used on Windows. (For work machine, where i am forced to use Windows, i happily have used the Kate text editor.)
- shassard 4y agopdf arranger is pretty slick if you're on linux: https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.github.jeromerobert.pdfarranger https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.github.jeromerobert.pdf...
- StillChill 4y ago[dead]
- wgriffin13 4y agoI actually like PDF Expert better than Adobe itself. It is easier and more responsive for general editing work.
- HelloMcFly 4y agoI think PDF Xchange is the most feature rich for what I use it for. You do have to buy once to unlock all functionality, but a very large amount is available in the free version.
- vladharbuz 4y agoOn Linux: zathura, evince, okular for viewing. I don't know of a friendly GUI tool for editing PDFs, but combinations of imagemagick and tools such as pdfunite work well. A bit off-topic, but nomacs and imv are nice for images.
- jabroni_salad 4y agoFor simple operations I like "PDF Split and Merge"
- isatty 4y agoPreview, on Mac. It’s great.
- RockRobotRock 4y agotorrent Adobe Acrobat XI, and don't feel bad about it because it's Adobe.
- quicon 4y agoIlovePDF desktop app for Windows is quite good and free. https://www.ilovepdf.com/desktop https://www.ilovepdf.com/desktop
- SllX 4y agoFor anyone on a Mac: all of these features in the screenshot are free with Preview. I assume OP is not, but something people should keep in mind.
- sys_64738 4y agoThis ^. Don't give Adobe money is my motto.
- brokenmachine 4y agoMine is don't give Apple money.
- unsupp0rted 4y agoIn Preview on Mac: CMND+R = rotate right CMND+L = rotate left
- tjohns 4y agoPreview.app is very underrated. It feels like a huge omission that other platforms don't have something similar built in. And if you need more editing features than Preview.app (which is already very powerful), PDF Expert [1] is my go-to on the App Store. [1]: https://pdfexpert.com/ https://pdfexpert.com/
- marban 4y agoPreview.app — Underrated since 2001.
- qubex 4y agoI distinctly remember a precursor of some sort being available on NeXTStep 3.0 in ‘95 or thereabouts.
- SllX 4y agoI don’t know how much code is still left from back then but it’s the same application as NeXTSTEP’s, although strangely Mac OS X Ventura dropped support for rendering PostScript (there used to be an instant conversion process that would render the PostScript as a PDF even after Apple moved to Quartz from Display PostScript).
- warbler73 4y ago"Rotating is hard!"
- Victerius 4y agoPlease drink verification can.
- 1letterunixname 4y agoWelcome to the Identity Processing Program of America!
- xnx 4y agoProtip: I only recently learned that LibreOffice is a pretty good PDF Editor. https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/how-do-i-edit-pdf-files-created-by-adobe-using-libre-office/30595 https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/how-do-i-edit-pdf-files-create...
- DreadY2K 4y agoIn my experience, LibreOffice Draw usually messes up the formatting of any PDFs I open in it. Nothing entirely unsalvageable, but text gets slightly moved around and winds up overlapping other text in a way that's annoying for future readers of the document.
- rahimnathwani 4y agoThis is not a pro tip. LibreOffice can import a PDF and export a PDF but, even with minimal changes, the PDF you get out won't necessarily have a similar binary representation or appearance to the original.
- xnx 4y agoMost of the PDF editing I do is the equivalent to physically typing over, covering over, or cutting elements out of a print document. I would not expect a an editor to be able to (for example) reflow the layout of PDF.
- rahimnathwani 4y agoI just opened a PDF in LibreOffice, and immediately exported it to PDF, without making any changes. I deliberately chose a PDF with very few images, simple formatting and very few fonts. The output PDF differed materially from the original: - not only was the font different, but the original fixed-width font had been replaced with a proportional font - multiple lines that had consistent horizontal alignment in the original were now jagged - numbers that were in a column are now no longer directly below each other
- spoils19 4y ago> This is not a pro tip. I think there's also the implication of 'pro', as if the rest of HN are not software professionals. I'd suggest GP to revise the structure of their comment in order to not offend the entire forum.
- imagetic 4y agoI would hope this problem wouldn't apply to anyone who uses Hacker News.
- AshamedCaptain 4y agoWhen has Reader allowing rotating pages? I don't think Reader has ever allowed saving or modifying PDFs in any way save for perhaps filling form fields... What Adobe is doing, however, is to add icons and menu entries for editing functionality that will never work in Reader, advertising the features of their PDF editing software. That's, basically, yet another extremely intrusive advertising strategy that's annoying as hell and that I guess we are bound to see even more of it in the future.
- merb 4y agoI wondered as well. adobe pro always needed a subscription/paid license.
- jnsie 4y agoOddly enough when I right click and and select 'Rotate view clockwise' it still works.
- jjice 4y agoMaybe not rolled out to you yet? I'm sure they have a progressive roll out system in case of breaking updates.
- bearmode 4y agoThe only rollout here is they've added another ad for their subscription. Acrobat Reader has never had edit capabilities - you can't and have never been able to edit and save the PDF in any way (except filling form fields maybe?). You could always rotate the view, that's not changed.
- mjrpes 4y agoThe rotate option under the view menu works, but doesn't let you save the rotated view. If you attempt to rotate pages from the edit menu, you get a pop up forcing you to subscribe to use that feature.
- nabaraz 4y agoI have been actively moving away from Adobe products. Recently purchased Affinity Photo to replace photoshop and I use Preview (on Mac) for all pdf work.
- cydonian_monk 4y agoThe Affinity products on Mac are some of the cleanest, polished, reasonably easy to use, responsive, and stable pieces of commercial image software I've used in years. Very impressed with what they've done so far.
- kcartlidge 4y agoThey also have a good offer on at the moment. They’ve released V2 and are offering all 3 apps on all supported formats for a single payment. Personally I only use Designer so didn’t partake, but even that is discounted a little.
- qubex 4y agoI’ve ben actively avoiding Adobe for about a decade now. Affinity is great. Adobe needs to learn to respect its users and not take them for granted while feeding them crap.
- bluedino 4y agoThere truly is some evil genius (?) running Adobe and just laughing a diabolical laugh as they come up with new 'features'
- mavu 4y ago2028: Adobe requires additional fees to display vowels.
- jahewson 4y agoRl sftwr dsnt nd vwls nywy.
- politelemon 4y agoCrtv cld
- 323 4y ago2030: PDF viewer takes 1 minute to start, unless you subscribe to the "start in 3 seconds deluxe option".
- t0bia_s 4y ago2032: AI constantly check yor workspace. In case of politically incorrect content you wouldnt be able to export.
- tasty_freeze 4y agoI have an Acrobat Pro 7.0 license I paid for years and years ago. I have a single use case: I scan a lot of vintage computer manuals as a hobby. Pro offers fine control over compression options. Acrobat has been nagging me for more than a decade to register it (though I registered it when I bought it). A couple of times I've had computer crashes or migrations and getting 7.0 reinstalled on the new machine was a pain. It galls me to think they want $500 for me to buy Pro again when I don't need or want any of the new features. I just want the existing functionality I paid for to continue working. Do any of the alternatives have similar fine control of compression options that Acrobat Pro exposes? I'd switch in a heartbeat.
- NotYourLawyer 4y agoSame here but with 9.0. My only complaint is that it‘s a little wonky with a high DPI display.
- AshamedCaptain 4y agoThe large number of ancient Acrobat Pro licenses floating on ebay seems to hint you are not the only one...
- moepstar 4y agoColorSync Utility on macOS (sorry, not sure of the right name in English) allows to add filters. I've used it to great success for down-/resizing/-sampling all kind of PDFs which sometimes are basically full pictures on each page. Create own filter, add "picture compression", mode "JPEG", move the slider just a little right from the middle... Start ColorSync app, open PDF, select filter from lower left, click "Apply" and then either "Save" or "Save as..."
- tjoff 4y agoWindows: Sumatra PDF. Linux: Zathura. These are so much better than Acrobat. Might not do everything you can imagine but they are excellent and a very good default.
- rahimnathwani 4y agoSumatra PDF is also, AFAIK, the best Epub reader for Windows.
- jahewson 4y agoSumatra is uses the MuPDF library which is excellent. Zathura however uses Poppler which is lacklustre.
- tjoff 4y agoThere is a MuPDF plugin for zathura that at least some distros seems to use by default.
- parker_mountain 4y agoApple: Apple has been quietly using the same screenshot functionality since the 90s, and has continually iterated over improvements on Preview since the early 2000s. I find the macos shortcuts to be poorly chosen and un-discoverable, but they've stuck with it, so finding how to take a screenshot is extremely easy. Microsoft: Microsoft is on their third major revamp of screenshots. There are six(!) different ways to invoke a screenshot on Window 11 - printscrn key, Win+Shift+S, snip and sketch, snipping tool, game bar, pressing the volume up+power buttons on supported devices (but not all). Microsoft's official website suggests third party tools in their app store as well. Each way offers different options (such as whole screen, individual app, cropping, etc). Some options quietly redirect you to other options, while still offering the previous option in contextual menus. Options will vary in where they place the image as well - filesystem, clipboard, or directly into a window for you to chose. Microsoft uses their browser as a featureless PDF reader. Other Preview.app functionality can be found within a combination of paint.exe and the new Windows Photos app - each with a completely different UI paradigm. They do not have an OCR solution - or if they do, I haven't found it. My understanding is that Windows 12 is a direct attempt to resolve a lot of these issues, and that Windows 11 has been deemed "transitional", but it's still extremely exhausting. I personally still prefer Windows over macOS (for a lot of reasons unrelated to Windows' incredibly boneheaded rough edges); but, please, Microsoft, what the fuck are you doing!?
- RustLove 4y ago
- tiahura 4y agoFake news. Acrobat Reader (free) never let you edit PDFs. Reader has always let you rotate the view. <View> <Rotate View>. Clockwise and Counterclockwise!
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- ourmandave 4y agoCouldn't rotate just be an in-app purchase? I don't use it enough to need a subscription.
- GavinMcG 4y agoCould, sure, but that would mean you pay them less money. They want you to pay them more money.
- unixhero 4y agoI have used PDFsam for years. It rules
- an1sotropy 4y agoI remember learning PostScript (~1993?) by reading the Red Book, and thinking how awesome it was that this company Adobe, which I'd never heard of, had created a new programming language just to solve once and for all the problem of specifying vector graphics to a printer, and had written such a nice book to help others use the language. It was magical to be able to write a text file in emacs, send it to the printer, and have cool images come out. Good old days. btw PDF started as Project Camelot at Adobe in ~1990, as a way to capture the results of executing a PostScript program [1]. I'm curious if there is still that kind of foundational innovation happening at Adobe, and if not, why it died? [1] https://blog.adobe.com/en/2018/06/14/evolution-digital-document-celebrating-adobe-acrobats-25th-anniversary https://blog.adobe.com/en/2018/06/14/evolution-digital-docum...
- dublin 4y agoDid you ever look in detail at Common Ground? IIRC, it was not only an Adobe PDF alternative, but the format was considerably more modern and powerful. Sadly, it seems like it lost just because PDF was similar to PostScript, a fact that never really made any real difference to anyone but programmers writing PDF parsers. (And PostScript smelled like the future, since Display PostScript was the basis for displays (well, kinda) at NeXT and Sun, and those were definitely the cool kids...
- an1sotropy 4y agoThat sounds cool; hadn't heard of it. The web searches I've just tried to look for technical details yielded not much; are there any extant open specs?
- blacklight 4y agoI've used a bunch of ImageMagick scripts for a while to export, rotate and manipulate PDFs. No need ever to buy subscriptions.
- out-of-time 4y agoMore than ever I feel vindicated in the decision to avoid non-free software. It's limiting of course but in tandem with a fully reproducible system it is guaranteed that my current workflows will always be available... I can't imagine doing anything in software without that foundation. The recent news about Adobe removing Pantone colors from existing projects is even more egregious: https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/1/23434305/adobe-pantone-subscription-announcement-photoshop-illustrator https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/1/23434305/adobe-pantone-su...
- bearmode 4y agoThis isn't an option for most professionals who need Adobe's products.
- nip 4y agoShameless plug: for anyone looking for an alternative, I’ve been building SimplePDF.eu [1] on my free time for last couple of years or so. The editor is entirely free to use and works locally (nothing gets sent to my server: neither the document you load nor the data you fill in [2]) [1] https://simplepdf.eu https://simplepdf.eu [2] https://simplePDF.eu/privacy_policy https://simplePDF.eu/privacy_policy
- uptown 4y agoI'm in the process of removing Adobe from my pipeline. What's the best alternative to Lightroom?
- vladharbuz 4y agodarktable is good. https://www.darktable.org/ https://www.darktable.org/
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- t0bia_s 4y agoCapture One in terms of functionality. But same s*itty pay model.
- wentin 4y agoAdobe Document Cloud has some nice features that are unique in the market, and are worthy being paid features. But sadly they are hidden under a sea of very basic feature like this one, totally unworthy of a paid feature — this make the good feature less noticeable. One of the paid feature that I really like is fluid PDF on mobile screen. Most PDF is not very readable on mobile screen, it needs pan and zoom. The fluid feature make the layout become more HTML-like and fluid, and adapt to mobile screen size. That is a feature to monetize. not rotating pages!
- hazelnut-tree 4y agoThis story is unclear and possibly misleading from the posted image. There are three versions of Adobe PDF software: - Adobe Reader desktop app (free and lets you rotate PDF pages) - Adobe Pro desktop app (full PDF editing and requires subscription) - Adobe PDF online (requires a free account and lets you rotate PDF pages: https://www.adobe.com/acrobat/online.html https://www.adobe.com/acrobat/online.html) You can still rotate PDF pages using the Reader desktop app. However, as other posters have recommended, there are many alternative PDF apps. Avoid Adobe if you can.
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- open-paren 4y ago*in Acrobat Reader. There is an online version that requires signing in, but no purchase. https://adobe.com/acrobat/online/rotate-pdf.html https://adobe.com/acrobat/online/rotate-pdf.html There are some other tools there as well. Disclosure: Adobe employee, not in Document Cloud.
- netsharc 4y agoI wanted to combine a few PDFs into 1 big one, and I noticed adobe.com offers that for free (but it requires user registration). Now I just remembered that Gimp can open PDFs, and each page would be its own layer. Probablt good enough for some light editing.
- Olumde 4y agoI no longer use Acrobat on Android since an upgrade required permissions to delete any PDF from my phone. No way San Jose!
- bsder 4y agoDepend on proprietary standards--win stupid prizes. Same old, same old.
- 1letterunixname 4y agopdfjam on Linux can do it for free. As can Mac.
- tambeb 4y agoMicrosoft's Edge on Windows lets you annotate and rotate PDFs.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y agoThere are a bunch of open source software that does this
- bearmode 4y agoThis was always the case. Adobe Reader has never had edit capabilities. This is not new.