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For those who were curious about the legal term "certiorari" (as I was): > "Certiorari is generally associated with the writ that the Supreme Court of the Unit
by toomanyrichies 4y ago
For those who were curious about the legal term "certiorari" (as I was):
> "Certiorari is generally associated with the writ that the Supreme Court of the United States issues to review a lower court's judgment. A case cannot, as a matter of right, be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. As such, a party seeking to appeal to the Supreme Court from a lower court decision must file a writ of certiorari.
> In the Supreme Court, if four Justices agree to review the case, then the Court will hear the case. This is referred to as "granting certiorari," often abbreviated as "cert." If four Justices do not agree to review the case, the Court will not hear the case. This is defined as denying certiorari."
1. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/certiorari#:~:text=In%20the%20Supreme%20Court%2C%20if,is%20defined%20as%20denying%20certiorari https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/certiorari#:~:text=In%20the%....
- ubermonkey 4y agoMy sister tells a tale of a groan-inducing joke wherein folks at law school would offer a mint, and then, at the last minute, snap their hand closed and say "CERT DENIED."
- Cyph0n 4y agoSounds like that could also work as a TLS joke.
- batmansmom1 4y agoI dont get it what does a mint have to do with a cert?
- trynewideas 4y ago"Certs" is a brand of breath mint.[1] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certs
- babyshake 4y ago"Let that sink in..."
- ubermonkey 4y agoI thought, when I remembered the joke, that i hadn't seen them for a while -- but I was still surprised to see, on the wiki page, that they've been off the market since 2018.
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- outside1234 4y ago
- dang 4y agoWould you please stop posting flamewar comments? We've asked you this tons of times and you're still doing it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33172404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33172404 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29548716 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29548716 (Dec 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29285461 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29285461 (Nov 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26838288 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26838288 (April 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22154606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22154606 (Jan 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21941714 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21941714 (Jan 2020) I don't want to ban you, but if you keep this up, we'll have to. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
- rayiner 4y agoOh dear. Thats the worst lawyer joke I’ve heard and I’ve been at this for a spell.
- bjornsing 4y agoIs this not widely known among Americans? I’m Swedish and think of this as common knowledge…
- smnrchrds 4y ago> I’m Swedish and think of this as common knowledge… I am Canadian and it's the first time I have heard this term. I am surprised you know about this from Sweden. I knew of the Canadian term, "leave" or "leave to appeal" though.
- bjornsing 4y agoThe US Supreme Court gets a lot of attention in Sweden. In this particular case I looked it up in 2018 when I did a bet with a friend that SCOTUS would not overturn Roe vs Wade within four years. I lost that bet, by about a month.
- rayiner 4y agoThe Swedish just seem super up to date on Americans in general. Every one I meet apologizes for their English and then proceeds to speak immaculate English.
- apocalyptic0n3 4y agoI think the process is mostly known, but the word "certiorari" is not.
- outside1234 4y agoI think the process is widely known - but I didn't know it had a random Latin name until today. Another good reason not to add jargon for easy to understand things that are better explained in three words.
- dragonwriter 4y ago> Another good reason not to add jargon The use of “certiorari” for legal review is literally older than English, so complaining about its continued use as adding jargon is misplaced.
- AlbertCory 4y agoI loved all the Latin when I was lawyer-adjacent. Even if it's, inter alia, pointless. Hey, engineers can say "<foo> considered harmful" and laugh about it. It's an inside joke. Every profession has them.