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People have been repeating Penrose's nonsense for decades because it supports a dualistic view generally motivated by religious views. https://en.m.wikipedia.or
by ilaksh 4y ago
People have been repeating Penrose's nonsense for decades because it supports a dualistic view generally motivated by religious views. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_dualism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_dualism
I think you can probably track the popularity of this idea with the development of neuroscience and decreasing popularity of hardcore religious worldviews and other types of superstition.
https://www.calculemus.org/MathUniversalis/NS/10/09mcdermott.html https://www.calculemus.org/MathUniversalis/NS/10/09mcdermott...
- 8bitsrule 4y ago'Penrose's nonsense' Scientists have repeated all kinds of nonsense in centuries past. Newton said that space was empty, so because that Pope had spoken, the idea that meteors fell from space conflicted with that orthodoxy. Finally the evidence won out. Humans have long shared 'numinous experiences' fairly universally. They gave rise to many religions, which cooked up a lot of orthodoxies and belief structures (impervious to evidence), which needed to be enforced (e.g. Servetus, Bruno), largely to support a range of power structures. I hardly think Penrose is so naive. Denying consciousness is the more naive. Denying the universality of mankind's life-changing experiences is akin to denying meteors ... but the evidence is perhaps too subtle for determined materialists.
- canadianfella 4y ago