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you say typical, which means you already recognize the exceptions are exceptions, which makes this into nothing more than an observation that exceptions exist,

you say typical, which means you already recognize the exceptions are exceptions, which makes this into nothing more than an observation that exceptions exist, but exceptions exist in everything, and so it is an uninteresting no-op of an observation. You could say "except for the exceptions" about everything on every topic. "2 plus 2 equals 4" "... in base 10, with arabic numerals."

the_gipsy 4y ago
HN's average audience is probably not neurotypical.
eks391 4y ago
2 + 2 = 4 in any base system 5 or higher, not just 10 Anyway I agree with your argument and am not trying to nullify it with this tangential correction
- boomskats 4y ago
  The Hacker News Parody Thread[0] has ruined your comment for me. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  Are you telling me my statement was true except in some cases?
- ironSkillet 4y ago
  To add to the chain of tangential corrections, it is incorrect to state that you are correcting a mistake. What your parent said was in fact a true statement, you just generalized it a bit.
hinkley 4y ago
That’s not what the title says. The title reminds neurodivergent people that, once again, go fuck yourself.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  It says nothing of the sort. If "neurodivergent" people are going to imagine insults where there are none, that cannot be helped.
  - reilly3000 4y ago
    Wow. Do you feel the same way about feminism? Racism? Do you doubt the existence or severity of ADHD, ASD, etc? In case there was any doubt on that last point, consider that each of those lower lifespan by about 30 years, have ~15X higher suicide rates, and are 1:2 are not able to work full time. Insults are in the eye of the beholder. For a person with a disorder marked by issues with eye contact and understanding social nuances, imagining insults that aren’t there IS the disability’s effect. If you comment on how much a black person enjoys watermelon and you do so objectively without malice, it’s still fair for that to be considered a big insult. Why? Because it has been used as a derogatory stereotype for many years. If you want to understand the perspective of neurodivergents, look up the terms “allistic” and “ableism”.
    - Brian_K_White 4y ago
      It says only that eye contact commands attention, not that everyone likes it or has the same reaction or exhibits their reaction in the same way. If someone does not like eye contact, that is still an example of attention.
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      When anybody hallucinates an insult where there was none, that is their own problem. You can't hold people accountable for offenses they never committed, for insults they never uttered, just because some crazy person hallucinates an offense.
      - hinkley 4y ago
        When you walk into a situation that has an intergenerational history rife with 'hallucinations' you don't immediately start talking about pink elephants. Stirring up a bad situation is not blameless behavior. It's the favorite realm of children, narcissists and saboteurs.
Spivak 4y ago
This is so silly because roughy 15% of people or 1 in 6 people is neurodivergent. Or stated another way if you would feel squeamish about playing Russian Roulette then you’re making the same bet if you make judgments about someone you’re not sure is neurodivergent. If we play this game at the margins every human in the US is female and there’s some exceptions. Things there’s fewer of than neurodivergent people. - people who are left handed - the number of black americans - people with blue eyes - redheads - people who live in California
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  It says attention not enjoy. A neurodivergant having a hard time processing something, or not liking it, is never the less devoting attention to it. And surely there are some percentage who actually are oblivious to it rather than merely handling it poorly. But they are not 1 in 6. But swiss cheese arguments to support percieving things as attacks are both quite typical indeed.

the_gipsy 4y ago

HN's average audience is probably not neurotypical.

eks391 4y ago

2 + 2 = 4 in any base system 5 or higher, not just 10 Anyway I agree with your argument and am not trying to nullify it with this tangential correction

boomskats 4y ago
The Hacker News Parody Thread[0] has ruined your comment for me. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
Brian_K_White 4y ago
Are you telling me my statement was true except in some cases?
ironSkillet 4y ago
To add to the chain of tangential corrections, it is incorrect to state that you are correcting a mistake. What your parent said was in fact a true statement, you just generalized it a bit.

hinkley 4y ago

That’s not what the title says. The title reminds neurodivergent people that, once again, go fuck yourself.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
It says nothing of the sort. If "neurodivergent" people are going to imagine insults where there are none, that cannot be helped.
- reilly3000 4y ago
  Wow. Do you feel the same way about feminism? Racism? Do you doubt the existence or severity of ADHD, ASD, etc? In case there was any doubt on that last point, consider that each of those lower lifespan by about 30 years, have ~15X higher suicide rates, and are 1:2 are not able to work full time. Insults are in the eye of the beholder. For a person with a disorder marked by issues with eye contact and understanding social nuances, imagining insults that aren’t there IS the disability’s effect. If you comment on how much a black person enjoys watermelon and you do so objectively without malice, it’s still fair for that to be considered a big insult. Why? Because it has been used as a derogatory stereotype for many years. If you want to understand the perspective of neurodivergents, look up the terms “allistic” and “ableism”.
  - Brian_K_White 4y ago
    It says only that eye contact commands attention, not that everyone likes it or has the same reaction or exhibits their reaction in the same way. If someone does not like eye contact, that is still an example of attention.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    When anybody hallucinates an insult where there was none, that is their own problem. You can't hold people accountable for offenses they never committed, for insults they never uttered, just because some crazy person hallucinates an offense.
    - hinkley 4y ago
      When you walk into a situation that has an intergenerational history rife with 'hallucinations' you don't immediately start talking about pink elephants. Stirring up a bad situation is not blameless behavior. It's the favorite realm of children, narcissists and saboteurs.

Spivak 4y ago

This is so silly because roughy 15% of people or 1 in 6 people is neurodivergent. Or stated another way if you would feel squeamish about playing Russian Roulette then you’re making the same bet if you make judgments about someone you’re not sure is neurodivergent. If we play this game at the margins every human in the US is female and there’s some exceptions. Things there’s fewer of than neurodivergent people. - people who are left handed - the number of black americans - people with blue eyes - redheads - people who live in California

Brian_K_White 4y ago
It says attention not enjoy. A neurodivergant having a hard time processing something, or not liking it, is never the less devoting attention to it. And surely there are some percentage who actually are oblivious to it rather than merely handling it poorly. But they are not 1 in 6. But swiss cheese arguments to support percieving things as attacks are both quite typical indeed.