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I feel that the likelihood of a discussion about this not devolving into a flame war is low.

by davesque 4y ago

systemvoltage 4y ago
- socialismisok 4y ago
  Most folks agree on biological facts, and the science is fairly consistent at this point. There remains a group who refuses to accept that we've improved our understanding of the human condition over the past several decades, unfortunately.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      > I guess, I will be leaving a place that doesn't allow civil discourse. You should buy Hacker News for $44 Billion, then you can publish whatever you want!
      - systemvoltage 4y ago
        smoldesu 4y ago
        Truly tragic that Hacker News has moved away from politics.
socialismisok 4y ago
It's honestly a bit shocking it's even made it to the front page.
- alphabettsy 4y ago
  Weekend HN has more posts by the right-leaning culture warriors. Has been the case for several years at least. Race and Gender related topics seem to be more frequent on the weekends.
  - another_story 4y ago
    Just because someone disagrees with you on an issue like this doesn't make them right leaning. Adding on the culture warrior part seems rather childish.
- contravariant 4y ago
  There's 2 times more comments than minutes since the it was posted, about half of which are flagged, so I don't think this thread has long left.
- bavell 4y ago
  I have strong opinions on this subject but I don't think it's possible to have a healthy and productive conversation about it in a forum and medium such as this.
  - rufusroflpunch 4y ago
    There are some subjects for which it is not possible to have a productive discussion at all anywhere, and this is one of them. This is an ideological difference so strong that it makes it difficult for the opposing views to even share a society.
- origin_path 4y ago
  [flagged]
eganist 4y ago
- rejectfinite 4y ago
- ClassyJacket 4y ago
  - eganist 4y ago
- fleddr 4y ago
joemazerino 4y ago
- detaro 4y ago
  What self-labeling is being denied to her? She seems to be mostly complaining about labels others use, in the general case.
- socialismisok 4y ago
  Nobody is saying this woman isn't a woman or isn't allowed to identify as a woman. (Or mother.)
Loveaway 4y ago
mongol 4y ago
This is true, but whatever discussion or flamewar comes out of it, it is neccessary. We can't pretend this conflict of language does not exist. It needs to ache out.
jimbokun 4y ago
True. But these flame wars need to happen. Only with uncomfortable discussions can we come to any kind of consensus on contentious issues like this. Even if the consensus is "agreeing to respectably disagree" once everyone is heard.
fzeroracer 4y ago

I feel that the likelihood of a discussion about this not devolving into a flame war is low.

systemvoltage 4y ago

socialismisok 4y ago
Most folks agree on biological facts, and the science is fairly consistent at this point. There remains a group who refuses to accept that we've improved our understanding of the human condition over the past several decades, unfortunately.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    > I guess, I will be leaving a place that doesn't allow civil discourse. You should buy Hacker News for $44 Billion, then you can publish whatever you want!
    - systemvoltage 4y ago
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        Truly tragic that Hacker News has moved away from politics.

socialismisok 4y ago

It's honestly a bit shocking it's even made it to the front page.

alphabettsy 4y ago
Weekend HN has more posts by the right-leaning culture warriors. Has been the case for several years at least. Race and Gender related topics seem to be more frequent on the weekends.
- another_story 4y ago
  Just because someone disagrees with you on an issue like this doesn't make them right leaning. Adding on the culture warrior part seems rather childish.
contravariant 4y ago
There's 2 times more comments than minutes since the it was posted, about half of which are flagged, so I don't think this thread has long left.
bavell 4y ago
I have strong opinions on this subject but I don't think it's possible to have a healthy and productive conversation about it in a forum and medium such as this.
- rufusroflpunch 4y ago
  There are some subjects for which it is not possible to have a productive discussion at all anywhere, and this is one of them. This is an ideological difference so strong that it makes it difficult for the opposing views to even share a society.
origin_path 4y ago
[flagged]

eganist 4y ago

rejectfinite 4y ago
ClassyJacket 4y ago
- eganist 4y ago
fleddr 4y ago

joemazerino 4y ago

detaro 4y ago
What self-labeling is being denied to her? She seems to be mostly complaining about labels others use, in the general case.
socialismisok 4y ago
Nobody is saying this woman isn't a woman or isn't allowed to identify as a woman. (Or mother.)

Loveaway 4y ago

mongol 4y ago

This is true, but whatever discussion or flamewar comes out of it, it is neccessary. We can't pretend this conflict of language does not exist. It needs to ache out.

jimbokun 4y ago

True. But these flame wars need to happen. Only with uncomfortable discussions can we come to any kind of consensus on contentious issues like this. Even if the consensus is "agreeing to respectably disagree" once everyone is heard.

fzeroracer 4y ago