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Doing this during a Windows 11 install will result in a road block until you fix said connection issues. You literally can't proceed without finding a hidden te

Doing this during a Windows 11 install will result in a road block until you fix said connection issues. You literally can't proceed without finding a hidden terminal and disabling the process and restarting. Insane.

LoganDark 4y ago
Doing what? Blocking those domains?
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- boneitis 4y ago
  I am similarly bewildered by everyone going along with it. I am not in on whatever cruel joke is being played on us. My best guess after turning my head 270 degrees, closing one eye, and squinting the other is that the noun is Microsoft/Windows, and the verb is running the ncsi daemon and having it fail the check.
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    There are people "going along with it"? I'm confused. When did blocking ever come up? Going along with what? Is this some movement?
throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
even with the cable unplugged and no wifi module?
- cronin101 4y ago
  Yes, can confirm I was installing Win11 on my brother-in-law's new PC that I built last week and there were no default drivers for the USB wifi adapter I had attempted to reuse from his old machine. The entire process was roadblocked wanting me to plug into Ethernet until I researched the secret keyboard combination that allows you to shell out and then restart with the ability to do a network-free install.
  - empyrrhicist 4y ago
    Madness
  - throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
  - justusw 4y ago
    I was using a Win 11 Pro installer stick on a Surface 4 the other day paired with a USB Ethernet interface. Aside from the fact that keyboard and mouse don’t work, because Windows doesn’t have drivers for a Microsoft Surface during install, I was able to convince Microsoft that I have no connection by unplugging the Ethernet cable right before the Microsoft account login prompt. Maybe I was lucky? Or really old installer? (Got it from Amazon Japan) It’s definitely not an OS I would like to make my daily driver. I just hope Apple won’t go down that road with macOS.
    - toast0 4y ago
      If I've been following tech news, Pro lets you move on with a local account, but Home might not.
      - justusw 4y ago
        That clears it up! Thanks!
      - temac 4y ago
        Iirc it is not the case anymore even for pro in 22h2. But bypassnro works for both home and pro.
  - JadeNB 4y ago
    > I researched the secret keyboard combination that allows you to shell out and then restart with the ability to do a network-free install. What is the secret keyboard combination?
    - 4y ago
- satysin 4y ago
  I ran into this a few weeks ago with an Intel 12th Gen NUC. The Windows 11 install media does not have drivers for the LAN nor the WiFi so it just sits there saying you need to connect to a network to complete setup. How on earth did Microsoft okay releasing a Professional version of their OS that offers no suggestion on how to finish the install when no network devices are detected? A simple Google found me the answer but it is piss poor UX to offer zero options when it knows there is no network interface to enable. People like to joke that you need the Terminal in Linux still and yet I couldn't even install the brand new Windows 11 on a computer without needing to open a command prompt using a keyboard shortcut and enter some cryptic command which rebooted my machine and enabled some hidden option.
lxe 4y ago
Yup. The full instructions can be found online but in general, When you get to that step, press Shift + F10 to bring up the terminal, then type "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" and press enter. The installer will restart but this time will have a "I don't have Internet" button that you can use to bypass this nonsense.
- banana_giraffe 4y ago
  This is also currently the only way to bypass the need for an MS account when setting up a new PC.
  - 6510 4y ago
    it didn't work on my new laptop
  - cm2187 4y ago
    And MS accounts make zero sense to anyone who has a private NAS or need to interact with anything non windows with kerberos.
    - vladvasiliu 4y ago
      It's worse than that. The account it creates is somehow "special". I have not yet figured out a way to connect to a computer with an MS account via RDP (yes, RDP is on and allowed through the firewall, the user is a local admin (the default)). Ditto for accessing that PC's shares.
      - database64128 4y ago
        You have to delete the PIN it forced you to create during OOBE. This forces the system to apply your MSA's password to the actual account. Without this step, the account has no password. You can still recreate the PIN afterwards and it won't delete the password.
        4y ago
TurkishPoptart 4y ago
This is why I refuse to update or upgrade Windows or my iPhone. They just keep over-engineering stuff and somehow it's always worse.
- mixmastamyk 4y ago
  Not safe, Linux FTW. Not perfect but at least not purposely fucking with you.
- Twisell 4y ago
  GPT3 gone bad?
  - alophawen 4y ago
    Yes Twisell, opinions not yours is a rogue AI.
    - TurkishPoptart 4y ago
      Thanks for backing me up on this. Sadly I don’t think anyone agrees with me on this constant “upgrade culture”
albertopv 4y ago
Windows experience is worse and worse. On my Windows 10 company provided PC I found games installed remotely. In a professional PC! A friend of mine found Spotify installed [1]. That's insane. [1] https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/09/28/spotify-app-is-automatically-getting-installed-on-windows-10-windows-11/ https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/09/28/spotify-app-is-auto...
- brirec 4y ago
  I’m not saying it makes it okay, but the “Professional for Workstations” edition does not have any sort of sponsored start menu items or auto-installs.
  - lloydatkinson 4y ago
    Does workstation edition have the same dumb properties as LTSC such as "Visual Studio won't install because reasons" or any other restrictions?
    - vladvasiliu 4y ago
      Not that I know of. But it won't install on "normal" PCs, it requires "workstation-level" CPUs. If you install it on a regular PC, it will just revert to regular win 11 pro. I don't know if this changed with the 22h2 upgrade, but it's the behavior I'd noticed before.
      - temac 4y ago
        Im not completely sure about that given it includes a few additional features like refs.
      - brirec 4y ago
        That’s not the case at all, and never was. I remember when Microsoft gave out free upgrade licenses for Windows 10 Workstation when it first came out, and it’s just an upgrade. The weird CPU spec thing is that Microsoft doesn’t let you sell a high end desktop computer with “regular” Windows Pro, and requires instead that it comes with Workstation. But you can either version on any grade of CPU as long as it runs Windows in the first place
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LoganDark 4y ago

Doing what? Blocking those domains?

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boneitis 4y ago
I am similarly bewildered by everyone going along with it. I am not in on whatever cruel joke is being played on us. My best guess after turning my head 270 degrees, closing one eye, and squinting the other is that the noun is Microsoft/Windows, and the verb is running the ncsi daemon and having it fail the check.
- LoganDark 4y ago
  There are people "going along with it"? I'm confused. When did blocking ever come up? Going along with what? Is this some movement?

throwaway0x7E6 4y ago

even with the cable unplugged and no wifi module?

cronin101 4y ago
Yes, can confirm I was installing Win11 on my brother-in-law's new PC that I built last week and there were no default drivers for the USB wifi adapter I had attempted to reuse from his old machine. The entire process was roadblocked wanting me to plug into Ethernet until I researched the secret keyboard combination that allows you to shell out and then restart with the ability to do a network-free install.
- empyrrhicist 4y ago
  Madness
- throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
- justusw 4y ago
  I was using a Win 11 Pro installer stick on a Surface 4 the other day paired with a USB Ethernet interface. Aside from the fact that keyboard and mouse don’t work, because Windows doesn’t have drivers for a Microsoft Surface during install, I was able to convince Microsoft that I have no connection by unplugging the Ethernet cable right before the Microsoft account login prompt. Maybe I was lucky? Or really old installer? (Got it from Amazon Japan) It’s definitely not an OS I would like to make my daily driver. I just hope Apple won’t go down that road with macOS.
  - toast0 4y ago
    If I've been following tech news, Pro lets you move on with a local account, but Home might not.
    - justusw 4y ago
      That clears it up! Thanks!
    - temac 4y ago
      Iirc it is not the case anymore even for pro in 22h2. But bypassnro works for both home and pro.
- JadeNB 4y ago
  > I researched the secret keyboard combination that allows you to shell out and then restart with the ability to do a network-free install. What is the secret keyboard combination?
  - 4y ago
satysin 4y ago
I ran into this a few weeks ago with an Intel 12th Gen NUC. The Windows 11 install media does not have drivers for the LAN nor the WiFi so it just sits there saying you need to connect to a network to complete setup. How on earth did Microsoft okay releasing a Professional version of their OS that offers no suggestion on how to finish the install when no network devices are detected? A simple Google found me the answer but it is piss poor UX to offer zero options when it knows there is no network interface to enable. People like to joke that you need the Terminal in Linux still and yet I couldn't even install the brand new Windows 11 on a computer without needing to open a command prompt using a keyboard shortcut and enter some cryptic command which rebooted my machine and enabled some hidden option.

lxe 4y ago

Yup. The full instructions can be found online but in general, When you get to that step, press Shift + F10 to bring up the terminal, then type "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" and press enter. The installer will restart but this time will have a "I don't have Internet" button that you can use to bypass this nonsense.

banana_giraffe 4y ago
This is also currently the only way to bypass the need for an MS account when setting up a new PC.
- 6510 4y ago
  it didn't work on my new laptop
- cm2187 4y ago
  And MS accounts make zero sense to anyone who has a private NAS or need to interact with anything non windows with kerberos.
  - vladvasiliu 4y ago
    It's worse than that. The account it creates is somehow "special". I have not yet figured out a way to connect to a computer with an MS account via RDP (yes, RDP is on and allowed through the firewall, the user is a local admin (the default)). Ditto for accessing that PC's shares.
    - database64128 4y ago
      You have to delete the PIN it forced you to create during OOBE. This forces the system to apply your MSA's password to the actual account. Without this step, the account has no password. You can still recreate the PIN afterwards and it won't delete the password.
      - 4y ago

TurkishPoptart 4y ago

This is why I refuse to update or upgrade Windows or my iPhone. They just keep over-engineering stuff and somehow it's always worse.

mixmastamyk 4y ago
Not safe, Linux FTW. Not perfect but at least not purposely fucking with you.
Twisell 4y ago
GPT3 gone bad?
- alophawen 4y ago
  Yes Twisell, opinions not yours is a rogue AI.
  - TurkishPoptart 4y ago
    Thanks for backing me up on this. Sadly I don’t think anyone agrees with me on this constant “upgrade culture”

albertopv 4y ago

Windows experience is worse and worse. On my Windows 10 company provided PC I found games installed remotely. In a professional PC! A friend of mine found Spotify installed [1]. That's insane. [1] https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/09/28/spotify-app-is-automatically-getting-installed-on-windows-10-windows-11/ https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/09/28/spotify-app-is-auto...

brirec 4y ago
I’m not saying it makes it okay, but the “Professional for Workstations” edition does not have any sort of sponsored start menu items or auto-installs.
- lloydatkinson 4y ago
  Does workstation edition have the same dumb properties as LTSC such as "Visual Studio won't install because reasons" or any other restrictions?
  - vladvasiliu 4y ago
    Not that I know of. But it won't install on "normal" PCs, it requires "workstation-level" CPUs. If you install it on a regular PC, it will just revert to regular win 11 pro. I don't know if this changed with the 22h2 upgrade, but it's the behavior I'd noticed before.
    - temac 4y ago
      Im not completely sure about that given it includes a few additional features like refs.
    - brirec 4y ago
      That’s not the case at all, and never was. I remember when Microsoft gave out free upgrade licenses for Windows 10 Workstation when it first came out, and it’s just an upgrade. The weird CPU spec thing is that Microsoft doesn’t let you sell a high end desktop computer with “regular” Windows Pro, and requires instead that it comes with Workstation. But you can either version on any grade of CPU as long as it runs Windows in the first place

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