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> Holmes' personal experience with trauma. Oh give me a fucking break. Every criminal has experience with trauma. This is the first time I've seen that brought

> Holmes' personal experience with trauma. Oh give me a fucking break. Every criminal has experience with trauma. This is the first time I've seen that brought up to justify a particular sentence.

tomxor 4y ago
She was also responsible for traumatising many employees and a whistle-blower.
77pt77 4y ago
There are arguments that sections of society should not be sent to prison. Like, ever. Enjoy: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/we-should-stop-putting-women-in-jail-for-anything/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/...
- kilolima 4y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
- coding123 4y ago
  There's an idiotic paywall, but seriously, does WaPo believe what they wrote there? Seriously as bad as that other paper saying we should probably let ourselves get robbed a bit more.
  - 77pt77 4y ago
    I see no paywall. Try the original article: https://theconversation.com/the-case-for-closing-down-womens-prisons-33000 https://theconversation.com/the-case-for-closing-down-womens...
  - heurisko 4y ago
    The headline is clickbait. The article is mild proposals to rehabilitate, e.g. drug users.
    - marcus0x62 4y ago
      What are you talking about? The article proposes, at length, that women’s prisons should be eliminated. I.e., exactly what the headline suggests.
      - heurisko 4y ago
        It proposes alternative measures for non-violent offences. I see the title as a rhetorical device. > If we can’t close down women’s prisons, we can at least slow down their expansion.
  - kevinmchugh 4y ago
    No, wapo doesn't, but its author may
- voxadam 4y ago
  I didn't encounter a paywall but you can read the article at https://archive.ph/5E3Ah https://archive.ph/5E3Ah if you're so inclined.
Aeolun 4y ago
Isn’t it always brought up a rich white criminal is sentenced? Actually I guess they don’t even have to be white, just rich is probably enough.
- pclmulqdq 4y ago
  As far as I know, it's rich women of all colors. Rich white guys don't get the "trauma" defense (although they get extra "good character" points).
  - anonymouskimmer 4y ago
    Rich white guys get the "affluenza" defense.

> Holmes' personal experience with trauma. Oh give me a fucking break. Every criminal has experience with trauma. This is the first time I've seen that brought up to justify a particular sentence.

tomxor 4y ago

She was also responsible for traumatising many employees and a whistle-blower.

77pt77 4y ago

There are arguments that sections of society should not be sent to prison. Like, ever. Enjoy: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/we-should-stop-putting-women-in-jail-for-anything/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/...

kilolima 4y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
coding123 4y ago
There's an idiotic paywall, but seriously, does WaPo believe what they wrote there? Seriously as bad as that other paper saying we should probably let ourselves get robbed a bit more.
- 77pt77 4y ago
  I see no paywall. Try the original article: https://theconversation.com/the-case-for-closing-down-womens-prisons-33000 https://theconversation.com/the-case-for-closing-down-womens...
- heurisko 4y ago
  The headline is clickbait. The article is mild proposals to rehabilitate, e.g. drug users.
  - marcus0x62 4y ago
    What are you talking about? The article proposes, at length, that women’s prisons should be eliminated. I.e., exactly what the headline suggests.
    - heurisko 4y ago
      It proposes alternative measures for non-violent offences. I see the title as a rhetorical device. > If we can’t close down women’s prisons, we can at least slow down their expansion.
- kevinmchugh 4y ago
  No, wapo doesn't, but its author may
voxadam 4y ago
I didn't encounter a paywall but you can read the article at https://archive.ph/5E3Ah https://archive.ph/5E3Ah if you're so inclined.

Aeolun 4y ago

Isn’t it always brought up a rich white criminal is sentenced? Actually I guess they don’t even have to be white, just rich is probably enough.

pclmulqdq 4y ago
As far as I know, it's rich women of all colors. Rich white guys don't get the "trauma" defense (although they get extra "good character" points).
- anonymouskimmer 4y ago
  Rich white guys get the "affluenza" defense.