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If her stay in “the Feds” is anything like the experiences I’ve heard of from people who are not her gender nor her race, it’s quite possible that she’ll be giv

If her stay in “the Feds” is anything like the experiences I’ve heard of from people who are not her gender nor her race, it’s quite possible that she’ll be giving lectures in the Metaverse by 2026.

KerrAvon 4y ago
I'm a native English speaker and I'm having trouble parsing this. Could you clarify?
- martinald 4y ago
  - tptacek 4y ago
    No.
    - fuckstick 4y ago
  - the-printer 4y ago
    No, I meant “from people” not “for people” but thanks cause I didn’t know I had a typo. I do not mean that she’ll be out. I never knew for sure until it was mentioned that there’s no parole in the Feds, but I’ve never heard of anyone paroling out of the Feds before anyhow. But I can imagine a scenario where someone can put a few dollars “on her books” so she can pay a guard to smuggle an iPhone in to her.
- the-printer 4y ago
  From what I’ve been told, compared to the State penitentiaries, the Feds is relatively easy. Using this is a reference, for a person like Elizabeth Holmes, I reckon that 11 years will not be as punishing as the person I am responding to imagines. If anything, at some point, she may be given access (either legally or illegally) to a smartphone device that will enable her to interact with the outside world (as is very common in prison, the phones aren’t cheap but I don’t think she’d have trouble getting a hold of one).
  - hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
    > From what I’ve been told, compared to the State penitentiaries, the Feds is relatively easy. I mean, "relatively easy" doesn't mean it's a cake walk, especially since in the US many State systems are barbarically abusive. She will be in prison with an extremely regimented schedule, being told exactly what to do. Correct, she's probably not going to need to join a gang for protection, but it is still nearly 10 years in lockup assuming she gets maximum good behavior credits.
    - the-printer 4y ago
      Yes 11 years of your life is 11 years of your life, but in reality a woman like her, with her (deviated) skill set and profile, can easily handle it in a manner that will convince the average person that she got off lightly. People who are less educated and have less influence are capable of pulling off what I’ve been describing (getting a cellphone and going on Facebook/Meta) while in Federal prison.
    - bdavis__ 4y ago
      It will be far less regimented than lets say, joining the army. Up at 5AM, stand for the count. Report to prison job for a couple of hours a day. 5pm, in your cell, standing for the count. Lights out at 10pm. You can exercise, go to the library, watch TV, play cards, whatever is available during most of the day.
  - iudqnolq 4y ago
    No such thing as legal smartphone in federal prison. Also remember she's not going to be rich anymore.
    - munk-a 4y ago
      For some weird reason people love giving people they perceive as rich (even if they have no money anymore - even if they famously lost it) lots of money for nothing.
    - astura 4y ago
teachrdan 4y ago
This is completely wrong. Prisoners in the federal prison system must serve at least 90% of their sentence. Holmes will not be getting out -- or have unfettered internet access -- anytime before late 2032 at the soonest.
- the-printer 4y ago
  Define “unfettered” in this context. And I wasn’t implying that she’d be free.
  - iudqnolq 4y ago
    Access to an email-like system for a per-minute fee. No other internet access. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrlinks https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrlinks
    - the-printer 4y ago
      There are. Cell phones. In. Prisons. People who have never even seen a fraction of the wealth that Elizabeth Holmes defrauded people out of are able to get them. She can very well wind up on a Web3 social platform anonymously by 2027, trading crypto while funding SciHub.
      - iudqnolq 4y ago
        "unfettered" != "potentially available if you're willing to break the law"
        the-printer 4y ago
        We are talking about the penitentiary here, chap.
        lostlogin 4y ago
        Pretty much single person there was willing to break the law, by definition. So if going down the slightly-less-legal route, the below story was pretty neat. A hacked together prison computer, network attached. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/inmates-built-computers-hidden-in-ceiling-connected-them-to-prison-network/amp/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/inmates-built-co...

KerrAvon 4y ago

I'm a native English speaker and I'm having trouble parsing this. Could you clarify?

martinald 4y ago
- tptacek 4y ago
  No.
  - fuckstick 4y ago
- the-printer 4y ago
  No, I meant “from people” not “for people” but thanks cause I didn’t know I had a typo. I do not mean that she’ll be out. I never knew for sure until it was mentioned that there’s no parole in the Feds, but I’ve never heard of anyone paroling out of the Feds before anyhow. But I can imagine a scenario where someone can put a few dollars “on her books” so she can pay a guard to smuggle an iPhone in to her.
the-printer 4y ago
From what I’ve been told, compared to the State penitentiaries, the Feds is relatively easy. Using this is a reference, for a person like Elizabeth Holmes, I reckon that 11 years will not be as punishing as the person I am responding to imagines. If anything, at some point, she may be given access (either legally or illegally) to a smartphone device that will enable her to interact with the outside world (as is very common in prison, the phones aren’t cheap but I don’t think she’d have trouble getting a hold of one).
- hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
  > From what I’ve been told, compared to the State penitentiaries, the Feds is relatively easy. I mean, "relatively easy" doesn't mean it's a cake walk, especially since in the US many State systems are barbarically abusive. She will be in prison with an extremely regimented schedule, being told exactly what to do. Correct, she's probably not going to need to join a gang for protection, but it is still nearly 10 years in lockup assuming she gets maximum good behavior credits.
  - the-printer 4y ago
    Yes 11 years of your life is 11 years of your life, but in reality a woman like her, with her (deviated) skill set and profile, can easily handle it in a manner that will convince the average person that she got off lightly. People who are less educated and have less influence are capable of pulling off what I’ve been describing (getting a cellphone and going on Facebook/Meta) while in Federal prison.
  - bdavis__ 4y ago
    It will be far less regimented than lets say, joining the army. Up at 5AM, stand for the count. Report to prison job for a couple of hours a day. 5pm, in your cell, standing for the count. Lights out at 10pm. You can exercise, go to the library, watch TV, play cards, whatever is available during most of the day.
- iudqnolq 4y ago
  No such thing as legal smartphone in federal prison. Also remember she's not going to be rich anymore.
  - munk-a 4y ago
    For some weird reason people love giving people they perceive as rich (even if they have no money anymore - even if they famously lost it) lots of money for nothing.
  - astura 4y ago

teachrdan 4y ago

This is completely wrong. Prisoners in the federal prison system must serve at least 90% of their sentence. Holmes will not be getting out -- or have unfettered internet access -- anytime before late 2032 at the soonest.

the-printer 4y ago
Define “unfettered” in this context. And I wasn’t implying that she’d be free.
- iudqnolq 4y ago
  Access to an email-like system for a per-minute fee. No other internet access. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrlinks https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrlinks
  - the-printer 4y ago
    There are. Cell phones. In. Prisons. People who have never even seen a fraction of the wealth that Elizabeth Holmes defrauded people out of are able to get them. She can very well wind up on a Web3 social platform anonymously by 2027, trading crypto while funding SciHub.
    - iudqnolq 4y ago
      "unfettered" != "potentially available if you're willing to break the law"
      - the-printer 4y ago
        We are talking about the penitentiary here, chap.
      - lostlogin 4y ago
        Pretty much single person there was willing to break the law, by definition. So if going down the slightly-less-legal route, the below story was pretty neat. A hacked together prison computer, network attached. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/inmates-built-computers-hidden-in-ceiling-connected-them-to-prison-network/amp/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/inmates-built-co...