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I think her being pregnant and having a child definitely made the sentence a little lighter than if she were otherwise. I do wonder if she'll even serve the ful
by partiallypro 4y ago
I think her being pregnant and having a child definitely made the sentence a little lighter than if she were otherwise. I do wonder if she'll even serve the full sentence.
- tptacek 4y agoShe will serve the full sentence. There is no federal parole.
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- woodruffw 4y agoIt's not parole, but with "good conduct"[1] she'll probably serve around 9 years (I didn't bother to do the exact math). [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_conduct_time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_conduct_time
- tptacek 4y agoThe same math gets me over 10 years, but: fair point. She'll serve most of her sentence. The key thing is that it's pretty deterministic; she's not getting out after a couple years, as can be the case for some state felonies.
- woodruffw 4y agoYep! I only added that because people frequently confuse parole with "earned time" (and you're right about the math, since I forgot to rate-out the time she can't earn).
- deweyair 4y agoRule of thumb is you'll do 85% of your sentence in the actual federal prison, 15% can be served in a community corrections center. These are usually halfway houses, or county jail if no halfway house in the area contracts with the fed.
- mwint 4y agoIs federal prison worse than a county jail? On its face, my initial reaction is that I’d rather stay out of a county jail. (But I’ve never done time or really looked into it)
- tptacek 4y agoFederal prison is much better than a county jail, and low/minimum security federal prison better still.
- metadat 4y agotl;dr: federal prisoners get almost two months per year for good behavior. > Under United States federal law, prisoners serving more than one year in prison get 54 days a year of good time on the anniversary of each year they serve plus the pro rata good time applied to a partial year served at the end of their sentence, at the rate of 54 days per year.
- bombcar 4y ago> 54 days a year of good time I know it's not at all the same, but that's better than some vacation policies ...
- metadat 4y agoDamn bombcar, that's a good point. Thinking about it this way, it's fucked up. American Life. What the hell are we doing!? There are no weekends where she's headed, though.
- pmoriarty 4y ago> She will serve the full sentence. There is no federal parole. She could be pardoned.
- bloodyplonker22 4y agoThat's really grasping at straws though.
- girvo 4y agoI cannot see either political party wanting to. Holmes is persona non-grata politically at this point.
- mrkramer 4y agoI think getting pregnant was part of her plan to get away from prison. Well 11 years is still 11 years. Tough luck!
- tptacek 4y agoI don't think it worked. Her ultimate sentence was higher than the PSR.
- yumraj 4y agoAnd she messed the life of 1 young child and 1 unborn baby just in the hope that it'll help.
- tptacek 4y agoAgain: her sentencing memorandum doesn't even seem to mention the kid. We should be careful about making stuff up to fit a narrative.
- metadat 4y agoThe court doesn't need to mention it to discreetly take it into account. Otherwise why wait until April to begin the sentence? Did they mention the pregnancy there? This is a legal, social, and political orchestration process, not a computational system.
- tptacek 4y agoThere are lots of reasons the BOP would prefer to avoid incarcerating pregnant women. Surrenders are usually 4-6 weeks out; with the holidays, that pushes out into January. She's not getting that much of a break.
- jjtheblunt 4y agoPerhaps a delay to give birth?
- robocat 4y ago“Theranos, Holmes and former company president Sunny Balwani were charged with fraud by the SEC in 2018”, “Holmes gave birth to her first child on July 10, 2021”. Wow - that’s some high level not-giving-a-shit about other humans (the kids). Or even more cynical, sociopathically using kids/pregnancy to try to get a reduced sentence?
- tptacek 4y agoI didn't look carefully, but Holmes' defense sentencing memorandum doesn't appear to mention pregnancy at all. Let's be careful about not making things up to suit a narrative!
- bombcar 4y agoAnd even if true, can you imagine telling someone to their face, "You shouldn't exist so your mom could have gotten a harsher prison sentence"?
- coldtea 4y agoIt's not about people not wanting the kid to be born though because it prevented harshed sentencing though - it's about the mother possibly wanting to have it for the same reason.
- alephnan 4y agoExcept now they will be bullied with “you only exist because so your mom could have gotten a lighter prison sentence”
- incompatible 4y agoPerhaps she just wanted kids, and figured bringing them up while in prison was a better option than waiting another 10-50 years until she got out.
- 10hr 4y agoyeah...and what this woman "just wants" has mostly been a disaster for society
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