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Seeing Elon flail about so publicly like this is just hilarious to me. I feel like we're way off track right now from his original purpose of buying twitter (m

Seeing Elon flail about so publicly like this is just hilarious to me. I feel like we're way off track right now from his original purpose of buying twitter (more free speech or something??? then it was bots then 8$ checkmarks and I can't even keep up anymore)

thatguy0900 4y ago
Those are all fairly related. If you want real free opinions, armies of bots running amok trying to create narratives is bad. And advertisers tend not to like some real opinions(and get weaponized fairly frequently when people see some opinions) so you need to reduce your reliance on them as well. Not that I think that a real free opinion forum would be very interesting, we already have 4chan.
- hprotagonist 4y ago
  look, my real free opinions are so important that i'm willing to automate sharing them!
  - thatguy0900 4y ago
    Well, if you buy them all checkmark, they will probably be able to stay
tjpnz 4y ago
This is what happens when you habitually work hundred plus hour weeks and perhaps get only five hours sleep a night. There's little to no method to his madness at this point.
- coolbreezetft22 4y ago
  Is he working though?? It seems to me that he just spends all day on twitter. Not all that different from myself actually, except no one is writing books and stories about me and my mythical 100 hour work weeks.
  - tjpnz 4y ago
    I suspect he is working but probably has a very short attention span.
    - hackandtrip 4y ago
      There is no way a person in his position has any time for focus. CEOs of big companies (especially in case they manage multiple companies!) usually act as firefighters and mainly mentors to top-management. They need to be able to quickly jump between calls, board meetings, press, Q&A, in matter of minutes. Something very similar is also written in Cal Newport's Deep Work book, where Jack Dorsey's typical day is outlined just as a series of interruptions. I guess that tweeting between these interactions is not that time-consuming for him, + he actually sleeps at the workplace and is 100% focused on work.
      - FranzFerdiNaN 4y ago
        Nah, he is just yet another incompetent person who became rich mostly due this parents. He cultivated an image in f being a genius and it worked for a long while, but with Twitter he showed his true capabilities because he had no one who did the actual work.
        macintux 4y ago
        There’s an interesting dive into his educational and work background floating around Twitter right now; it sounds like he lied about his college degree and was working in the U.S. illegally for a while as a young adult.
      - themitigating 4y ago
        Amphetamine addiction can cause impulsive behavior and allow a person to work abnormal hours
        operatingthetan 4y ago
        That's been my theory about Musk and SBF for a while. Both the behaviors and the physical tics that accompany it.
sschueller 4y ago
Me too and I feel quite vindicated as I have been saying it for a long time that Musk is an incompetent fraud with incredible amounts of luck. Edit: actually less vindicated but more happy that I don't have to hear from people how great Elon is any more.
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- misiti3780 4y ago
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- starik36 4y ago
  I wish I could upvote you twice. Totally incompetent fraud. I mean SpaceX was a total stroke of luck. Sometimes you just get the right mixture of methane and oxygen by accident and the rocket just blasts off by itself. And we definitely wouldn't have to go grovel to the Russians had SpaceX not been the only company in US capable of delivering astronauts to ISS. Same with Tesla and his other previous companies - just an accidental stroke of luck for an incompetent fraud.
  - negamax 4y ago
    Elon enjoys a massive following for his moonshots. And people have dedicated their life to his vision. Outside of it many investors and customers have supported him to be part of his grand vision. But last week has shown his true colors. He's no visionary. Just your neighborhood slavedriver with mastery in storytelling. At this stage I am willing to use deceptive to describe Elon. On a public square he broke his persona. He's weak and dangerous as far as I am concerned.
  - te_2343343 4y ago
    From my perspective, something seemed to happen with Musk roughly around 2015 or so. It seems like prior to that time, Musk was really indeed investing in some visionary tech that actually injected a kick in the pants to some industries (electric cars, space). Nothing wrong IMHO with Tesla and SpaceX. I think the super-detractors miss just what an out-of-nowhere big deal the Roadster was. Since then, though, Musk has focused on a lot of misses that have spectacularly over-promised and/or undelivered. Neuralink seems to be based on over the top futurism and a lot of questionable promises considering current technology state (particularly considering the current overpromise of AI, with self-driving cars still way far out). Same with his Hyperloop concept. The Boring Company has so far been quite unimpressive, cars in a small one lane tunnel is not very innovative and does not seem to bring anything that existing AGT systems cover already. Then there's Twitter, where it seems there was no vision at all, and you half get the impression that he only bought it because he was miffed at the content moderation. Tesla in particular seems to be a missed opportunity with New Musk at the helm. It seems to me that to get to the next level, Tesla could use some care to iron out the QC issues... they are not known as super reliable cars at this point on certain aspects, but it does not seem like it is insurmountable to bring quality standards up to the top brands. Were I a Tesla investor, my concern would be that Musk's constant distractions with things like Twitter are truly going to hamper the efforts of his primary companies... and looking at the post-Twitter stock price of Tesla, it seems I'm not the only one with such a concern.
themadturk 4y ago
I've been eating sooo much popcorn, watching this. No, I am not at all happy for the people directly affected by this, or even for my own enjoyment of the platform, but because seeing what Musk is doing to himself is such a spectacle.

thatguy0900 4y ago

Those are all fairly related. If you want real free opinions, armies of bots running amok trying to create narratives is bad. And advertisers tend not to like some real opinions(and get weaponized fairly frequently when people see some opinions) so you need to reduce your reliance on them as well. Not that I think that a real free opinion forum would be very interesting, we already have 4chan.

hprotagonist 4y ago
look, my real free opinions are so important that i'm willing to automate sharing them!
- thatguy0900 4y ago
  Well, if you buy them all checkmark, they will probably be able to stay

tjpnz 4y ago

This is what happens when you habitually work hundred plus hour weeks and perhaps get only five hours sleep a night. There's little to no method to his madness at this point.

coolbreezetft22 4y ago
Is he working though?? It seems to me that he just spends all day on twitter. Not all that different from myself actually, except no one is writing books and stories about me and my mythical 100 hour work weeks.
- tjpnz 4y ago
  I suspect he is working but probably has a very short attention span.
  - hackandtrip 4y ago
    There is no way a person in his position has any time for focus. CEOs of big companies (especially in case they manage multiple companies!) usually act as firefighters and mainly mentors to top-management. They need to be able to quickly jump between calls, board meetings, press, Q&A, in matter of minutes. Something very similar is also written in Cal Newport's Deep Work book, where Jack Dorsey's typical day is outlined just as a series of interruptions. I guess that tweeting between these interactions is not that time-consuming for him, + he actually sleeps at the workplace and is 100% focused on work.
    - FranzFerdiNaN 4y ago
      Nah, he is just yet another incompetent person who became rich mostly due this parents. He cultivated an image in f being a genius and it worked for a long while, but with Twitter he showed his true capabilities because he had no one who did the actual work.
      - macintux 4y ago
        There’s an interesting dive into his educational and work background floating around Twitter right now; it sounds like he lied about his college degree and was working in the U.S. illegally for a while as a young adult.
    - themitigating 4y ago
      Amphetamine addiction can cause impulsive behavior and allow a person to work abnormal hours
      - operatingthetan 4y ago
        That's been my theory about Musk and SBF for a while. Both the behaviors and the physical tics that accompany it.

sschueller 4y ago

Me too and I feel quite vindicated as I have been saying it for a long time that Musk is an incompetent fraud with incredible amounts of luck. Edit: actually less vindicated but more happy that I don't have to hear from people how great Elon is any more.

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misiti3780 4y ago
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starik36 4y ago
I wish I could upvote you twice. Totally incompetent fraud. I mean SpaceX was a total stroke of luck. Sometimes you just get the right mixture of methane and oxygen by accident and the rocket just blasts off by itself. And we definitely wouldn't have to go grovel to the Russians had SpaceX not been the only company in US capable of delivering astronauts to ISS. Same with Tesla and his other previous companies - just an accidental stroke of luck for an incompetent fraud.
- negamax 4y ago
  Elon enjoys a massive following for his moonshots. And people have dedicated their life to his vision. Outside of it many investors and customers have supported him to be part of his grand vision. But last week has shown his true colors. He's no visionary. Just your neighborhood slavedriver with mastery in storytelling. At this stage I am willing to use deceptive to describe Elon. On a public square he broke his persona. He's weak and dangerous as far as I am concerned.
- te_2343343 4y ago
  From my perspective, something seemed to happen with Musk roughly around 2015 or so. It seems like prior to that time, Musk was really indeed investing in some visionary tech that actually injected a kick in the pants to some industries (electric cars, space). Nothing wrong IMHO with Tesla and SpaceX. I think the super-detractors miss just what an out-of-nowhere big deal the Roadster was. Since then, though, Musk has focused on a lot of misses that have spectacularly over-promised and/or undelivered. Neuralink seems to be based on over the top futurism and a lot of questionable promises considering current technology state (particularly considering the current overpromise of AI, with self-driving cars still way far out). Same with his Hyperloop concept. The Boring Company has so far been quite unimpressive, cars in a small one lane tunnel is not very innovative and does not seem to bring anything that existing AGT systems cover already. Then there's Twitter, where it seems there was no vision at all, and you half get the impression that he only bought it because he was miffed at the content moderation. Tesla in particular seems to be a missed opportunity with New Musk at the helm. It seems to me that to get to the next level, Tesla could use some care to iron out the QC issues... they are not known as super reliable cars at this point on certain aspects, but it does not seem like it is insurmountable to bring quality standards up to the top brands. Were I a Tesla investor, my concern would be that Musk's constant distractions with things like Twitter are truly going to hamper the efforts of his primary companies... and looking at the post-Twitter stock price of Tesla, it seems I'm not the only one with such a concern.

themadturk 4y ago

I've been eating sooo much popcorn, watching this. No, I am not at all happy for the people directly affected by this, or even for my own enjoyment of the platform, but because seeing what Musk is doing to himself is such a spectacle.