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Streaming Chrome with some value adds must have been a short-term product right? It could only have existed until PCs caught up on processing speed (Apple's M1?

Streaming Chrome with some value adds must have been a short-term product right? It could only have existed until PCs caught up on processing speed (Apple's M1?). I wonder what vision did Suhail pitch to PG to deserve high praise. Because this can't be it.

dhoe 4y ago
My guess when it launched was (maybe too cynically) that it's the 100% complete visibility of user behavior.
- samwillis 4y ago
  A team with a background in data analytics, starting a fully hosted browser platform? You don't have to squint too hard to to come to that conclusion. Although they did claim to keep your browsing data privet: https://www.mightyapp.com/security https://www.mightyapp.com/security Maybe four years ago it was seen as a strong counter to ad/tracker blocking. But now, with increased regulation and consumer resistance they couldn't make that play?
  - dhoe 4y ago
    Doesn't have to be personal data. You'd know the performance of every website's funnel, most used features of every app etc. Somebody would have paid a lot for it.
- tweestuff 4y ago
GMoromisato 4y ago
The ultimate vision is/was to have everything run in the cloud. Imagine if you could run any app on the most powerful machine in the world. See: https://blog.mightyapp.com/mightys-secret-plan-to-invent-the-future-of-computing/ https://blog.mightyapp.com/mightys-secret-plan-to-invent-the... In my opinion, this is the right goal, but I don't think this can be done by running existing apps in the cloud (and remoting their UI). Instead, I think we need a new cloud-native platform so that any app can be written as a cloud app. (Obligatory self-promotion: that's what we're trying to do with https://gridwhale.com https://gridwhale.com)
- jamiek88 4y ago
  Hmmm. Interesting. Would the UI be local and compute remote in this paradigm? And how is that different from the old thin client model? just read your site, and I’m thinking of this as more like a super massive global mainframe?
  - GMoromisato 4y ago
    Yes, that's exactly it. Local UI (initially in the browser, but could be on a rich-client or mobile app) but all compute is in the cloud. The difference from existing thin-client models is that it's a single stack: When you write a program, you write the UI code as if on a local computer. E.g., you just call MessageBox("Hi, there") and the platform is responsible for remoting that as appropriate. "A super massive global mainframe" is the correct analogy, but instead of a text-mode VT100 terminal, you get a full remote GUI (more like X Windows).
    - jamiek88 4y ago
      Sounds really interesting! Thanks for the follow up.
- swyx 4y ago
  as pmarca is fond of saying, ideas are never wrong, just early. i bet at some point in the future a New Mighty will come along and work
- TeMPOraL 4y ago
  > The ultimate vision is/was to have everything run in the cloud. Imagine if you could run any app on the most powerful machine in the world. IMO the core paradigm shift that needs to happen is for the software and infrastructure to become commoditized. The only way for cloud-everything to not be a nightmarish abuse of the end-users is for the mode of operation to change, from the current "data comes to the app", into "app comes to the data". That is, I believe the data, the application and the compute running it need to be independent to the extent possible. In particular, the choice of an app and where it runs should be entirely up to user. The user should be able to easily switch from e.g. a cloud run by Amazon to e.g. a "cloud" run by their HOA in the basement of their block of flats. And then possibly switch to a cloud run by a company local to their city, or one of their employer, etc. The primary point behind my view is to prevent application vendors from being able to take their users hostage by keeping users' data under lock on their own infrastructure, accessible only through their own software. The second point is to increase efficiency and boost local markets worldwide.
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janef0421 4y ago
Or people started closing tabs more frequently and/or used something other than chrome.
foobiekr 4y ago
The Network Is The Computer just take the Sun marketing and sprinkle AAS.
randomsearch 4y ago
> I wonder what vision did Suhail pitch to PG to deserve high praise. Because this can't be it From what I've read, sounds like a thin client machine based on the web. Chromebooks but even thinner, relying on SSR. I think that's a plausible vision that could have driven the upfront costs of hardware down in return for a subscription. Pithy vision - "a new type of web-centric computer" Edit: I really liked following Mighty, and it's exactly the kind of speculative startup that you can respect and admire even when it doesn't work out. They didn't do anything wrong, they tried to make a useful valuable product but failed. A worthy endeavour.

dhoe 4y ago

My guess when it launched was (maybe too cynically) that it's the 100% complete visibility of user behavior.

samwillis 4y ago
A team with a background in data analytics, starting a fully hosted browser platform? You don't have to squint too hard to to come to that conclusion. Although they did claim to keep your browsing data privet: https://www.mightyapp.com/security https://www.mightyapp.com/security Maybe four years ago it was seen as a strong counter to ad/tracker blocking. But now, with increased regulation and consumer resistance they couldn't make that play?
- dhoe 4y ago
  Doesn't have to be personal data. You'd know the performance of every website's funnel, most used features of every app etc. Somebody would have paid a lot for it.
tweestuff 4y ago

GMoromisato 4y ago

The ultimate vision is/was to have everything run in the cloud. Imagine if you could run any app on the most powerful machine in the world. See: https://blog.mightyapp.com/mightys-secret-plan-to-invent-the-future-of-computing/ https://blog.mightyapp.com/mightys-secret-plan-to-invent-the... In my opinion, this is the right goal, but I don't think this can be done by running existing apps in the cloud (and remoting their UI). Instead, I think we need a new cloud-native platform so that any app can be written as a cloud app. (Obligatory self-promotion: that's what we're trying to do with https://gridwhale.com https://gridwhale.com)

jamiek88 4y ago
Hmmm. Interesting. Would the UI be local and compute remote in this paradigm? And how is that different from the old thin client model? just read your site, and I’m thinking of this as more like a super massive global mainframe?
- GMoromisato 4y ago
  Yes, that's exactly it. Local UI (initially in the browser, but could be on a rich-client or mobile app) but all compute is in the cloud. The difference from existing thin-client models is that it's a single stack: When you write a program, you write the UI code as if on a local computer. E.g., you just call MessageBox("Hi, there") and the platform is responsible for remoting that as appropriate. "A super massive global mainframe" is the correct analogy, but instead of a text-mode VT100 terminal, you get a full remote GUI (more like X Windows).
  - jamiek88 4y ago
    Sounds really interesting! Thanks for the follow up.
swyx 4y ago
as pmarca is fond of saying, ideas are never wrong, just early. i bet at some point in the future a New Mighty will come along and work
TeMPOraL 4y ago
> The ultimate vision is/was to have everything run in the cloud. Imagine if you could run any app on the most powerful machine in the world. IMO the core paradigm shift that needs to happen is for the software and infrastructure to become commoditized. The only way for cloud-everything to not be a nightmarish abuse of the end-users is for the mode of operation to change, from the current "data comes to the app", into "app comes to the data". That is, I believe the data, the application and the compute running it need to be independent to the extent possible. In particular, the choice of an app and where it runs should be entirely up to user. The user should be able to easily switch from e.g. a cloud run by Amazon to e.g. a "cloud" run by their HOA in the basement of their block of flats. And then possibly switch to a cloud run by a company local to their city, or one of their employer, etc. The primary point behind my view is to prevent application vendors from being able to take their users hostage by keeping users' data under lock on their own infrastructure, accessible only through their own software. The second point is to increase efficiency and boost local markets worldwide.

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janef0421 4y ago

Or people started closing tabs more frequently and/or used something other than chrome.

foobiekr 4y ago

The Network Is The Computer just take the Sun marketing and sprinkle AAS.

randomsearch 4y ago

> I wonder what vision did Suhail pitch to PG to deserve high praise. Because this can't be it From what I've read, sounds like a thin client machine based on the web. Chromebooks but even thinner, relying on SSR. I think that's a plausible vision that could have driven the upfront costs of hardware down in return for a subscription. Pithy vision - "a new type of web-centric computer" Edit: I really liked following Mighty, and it's exactly the kind of speculative startup that you can respect and admire even when it doesn't work out. They didn't do anything wrong, they tried to make a useful valuable product but failed. A worthy endeavour.