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> Is there a bug with onewheels that are causing this injury/death? Yes. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=onewheel+injuries https://www.youtube.co

> Is there a bug with onewheels that are causing this injury/death? Yes. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=onewheel+injuries https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=onewheel+injuri... Edit: I should have explained this more. There are whole threads on YT on how these things are super dangerous and causing a lot of injuries. Especially with random lockups. There are videos about the poor construction, lockups, dangerous to self repair, etc. I found them when I started to look into buying one of these myself. Here is a reddit thread full of stories... https://www.reddit.com/r/onewheel/comments/robnkf/lets_talk_about_our_one_wheel_injuries/ https://www.reddit.com/r/onewheel/comments/robnkf/lets_talk_... Old, but Casey Neistat broke his collar bone... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ay5M82IcUI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ay5M82IcUI Lawsuit over wrongful death: https://gearjunkie.com/news/onewheel-wrongful-death-lawsuit https://gearjunkie.com/news/onewheel-wrongful-death-lawsuit Nosedives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24T4xrSf1Dg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24T4xrSf1Dg Electronic issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3ddOMvBws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3ddOMvBws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5b3fHL6ko0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5b3fHL6ko0 Onewheel CEO SBF moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2PrcgfsX14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2PrcgfsX14

shockeychap 4y ago
This is not a link to a video describing a specific bug in the product. It's just a link to a search of "onewheel injuries" in YouTube, which presents a variety of videos detailing all manner of injuries that come from operator error and the inherent dangers of OneWheel operation. Try searching for "mountain bike injuries" and see what you get. Is there anything else? (I'm sincerely interested. The CPSC article clearly infers a situation in which it suddenly stops. Is this confirmed?)
- CharlesW 4y ago
  > (I'm sincerely interested. The CPSC article clearly infers a situation in which it suddenly stops. Is this confirmed?) The first few seconds of this 2-year-old video shows it happening to Adam Savage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3ivCUxIvY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3ivCUxIvY What I'm finding after some light digging is that this "nosedive" problem has seemingly been injuring people for years. There's apparently even a small ecosystem of add-on products that purport to address it: https://www.badgerwheel.com/shop-online/badgersense https://www.badgerwheel.com/shop-online/badgersense
  - the_mitsuhiko 4y ago
    > Using an intuitive redline display, the power gauge lets you know at a glance how much power the motor has left before a nosedive is imminent. What a quote.
  - Gatsky 4y ago
    That Adam Savage footage… Ok, thanks, never getting on one of these things. It is just a flawed concept basically.
Zak 4y ago
These search results do not appear to describe a flaw in the product. I watched a bit from one of the crash compilations and would describe every crash I saw as rider error. Many of them were attempting stunts, holding cameras while riding, or both. It may be easy to make such errors, but the same could be said of a unicycle, skateboard, BMX bike, or any of many other vehicles generally seen as safe enough for sale to the public.
- Supermancho 4y ago
  Not even 4 deaths a year, I have to say this is still a magnitude safer than swimming or skiing. It's dangerous to some degree, but enough for a recall seems over the top. Just the statement itself seems unusually targeted. First they came for the magnets, now the uniboards?
  - fn-mote 4y ago
    > Not even 4 deaths a year, I have to say this is still a magnitude safer than swimming or skiing. The only meaningful comparison would be a _rate_, not total number of injuries. Google says there are 40 skiing deaths per year in the US. It would be very easy to believe there are 100x more people skiing than uniboarding. This passes my back of the envelope test for "dangerous". If you've got better numbers, I'll listen.
    - Zak 4y ago
      My take on it is that if it's no more dangerous than the term "20+ MPH electrically-driven skateboard/unicycle hybrid" sounds, then it's perfectly fine to market it to adults. That sounds kind of dangerous to me. If I was going to ride one, I'd be sure I was wearing a helmet, knee pads, and elbow pads. I'd ride it in a very controlled space free of obstacles, uneven surfaces, and unpredictable road users until I mastered controlling it. I'd step up that safety gear a notch if I was attempting stunts. Some people aren't that careful, but as long as they're injuring themselves rather than others, it does not strike me as grounds for a recall. Edit: the wheel locking randomly or unpredictably certainly would be grounds for a recall, but the linked Youtube search doesn't show that, at least not without watching a couple hours of video.

shockeychap 4y ago

This is not a link to a video describing a specific bug in the product. It's just a link to a search of "onewheel injuries" in YouTube, which presents a variety of videos detailing all manner of injuries that come from operator error and the inherent dangers of OneWheel operation. Try searching for "mountain bike injuries" and see what you get. Is there anything else? (I'm sincerely interested. The CPSC article clearly infers a situation in which it suddenly stops. Is this confirmed?)

CharlesW 4y ago
> (I'm sincerely interested. The CPSC article clearly infers a situation in which it suddenly stops. Is this confirmed?) The first few seconds of this 2-year-old video shows it happening to Adam Savage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3ivCUxIvY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3ivCUxIvY What I'm finding after some light digging is that this "nosedive" problem has seemingly been injuring people for years. There's apparently even a small ecosystem of add-on products that purport to address it: https://www.badgerwheel.com/shop-online/badgersense https://www.badgerwheel.com/shop-online/badgersense
- the_mitsuhiko 4y ago
  > Using an intuitive redline display, the power gauge lets you know at a glance how much power the motor has left before a nosedive is imminent. What a quote.
- Gatsky 4y ago
  That Adam Savage footage… Ok, thanks, never getting on one of these things. It is just a flawed concept basically.

Zak 4y ago

These search results do not appear to describe a flaw in the product. I watched a bit from one of the crash compilations and would describe every crash I saw as rider error. Many of them were attempting stunts, holding cameras while riding, or both. It may be easy to make such errors, but the same could be said of a unicycle, skateboard, BMX bike, or any of many other vehicles generally seen as safe enough for sale to the public.

Supermancho 4y ago
Not even 4 deaths a year, I have to say this is still a magnitude safer than swimming or skiing. It's dangerous to some degree, but enough for a recall seems over the top. Just the statement itself seems unusually targeted. First they came for the magnets, now the uniboards?
- fn-mote 4y ago
  > Not even 4 deaths a year, I have to say this is still a magnitude safer than swimming or skiing. The only meaningful comparison would be a _rate_, not total number of injuries. Google says there are 40 skiing deaths per year in the US. It would be very easy to believe there are 100x more people skiing than uniboarding. This passes my back of the envelope test for "dangerous". If you've got better numbers, I'll listen.
  - Zak 4y ago
    My take on it is that if it's no more dangerous than the term "20+ MPH electrically-driven skateboard/unicycle hybrid" sounds, then it's perfectly fine to market it to adults. That sounds kind of dangerous to me. If I was going to ride one, I'd be sure I was wearing a helmet, knee pads, and elbow pads. I'd ride it in a very controlled space free of obstacles, uneven surfaces, and unpredictable road users until I mastered controlling it. I'd step up that safety gear a notch if I was attempting stunts. Some people aren't that careful, but as long as they're injuring themselves rather than others, it does not strike me as grounds for a recall. Edit: the wheel locking randomly or unpredictably certainly would be grounds for a recall, but the linked Youtube search doesn't show that, at least not without watching a couple hours of video.