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That's already happened ... just look at how many youtube channels have integrated a "and now let's briefly talk about my sponsors" segment in the middle.

derekp7 4y ago
Now all Youtube needs is to give the content creator the ability to disable the fast forward / skip 10 second buttons at specified portions of the video (in return for a fee of course).
- midoridensha 4y ago
  They could try that, but browser extensions like Enhancer for YouTube will fix it. Also, you can just download the video with youtube-dl and watch it that way.
- weberer 4y ago
  That's exactly what they do with their "Shorts" section. They completely take away play controls from the user.
  - brokenmachine 4y ago
    Is there any way to add the controls back? I'd definitely like to disable the looping at the very least.
drdec 4y ago
This is how ads were in the beginning of television, the characters in the snow would talk about the product.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  And how ads on radio have been since forever.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
  And to be honest, I mind those a lot less. In fact, on old shows they're an interesting historical look into a society. To the point that they're included as bonus features.
- dont__panic 4y ago
  Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGDgnp7-uck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGDgnp7-uck ("Is that a PS Vita" in the middle of a dramatic, slow-paced show)
  - blessedwhiskers 4y ago
    30 Rock executed this type of hamfisted product placement to great comedic effect, ending with a fourth wall break and "...can we have our money now?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36wUmJGzvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36wUmJGzvA
WD-42 4y ago
That's why we have SponsorBlock: https://sponsor.ajay.app/ https://sponsor.ajay.app/ It even has an API that youtube-dlp uses to automatically trim out sponsored sections from downloaded videos!
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  It's definitely useful - especially for yt-dlp - but I eventually had to turn it off due to the clipping being a bit wayward[1]. Often got videos where it'd clip 15-20s before the sponsor and 30s after which leads to horrible glitchy cuts. Or sometimes it would only cut out the middle 2m of a sponsor segment leading to, again, horrible glitchy cuts but with sponsorship. etc.etc. [1] This may be because I was downloading things reasonably quickly after they went up - waiting a day or two might have got better results?
  - brokenmachine 4y ago
    It probably is only cutting on the keyframes. There's a flag to tell it to reencode up to and after the cuts, which would probably help a lot. Yep - https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/FAQ https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/FAQ >Video files cannot be cut at exact timestamps without re-encoding. yt-dlp does not re-encode the video by default, even when cutting is required. You can use --force-keyframes-at-cuts to force re-encoding; however, this process is slow - there is no way around this. I'd probably rather just tell it to mark the sponsor segments as chapters and then skip them manually. I think it marks them by default.
    - zimpenfish 4y ago
      Excellent, I shall try this out, thanks
PebblesRox 4y ago
Not to mention all the youtube videos that are just ads. My 11yo wanted to watch some saxophone videos to help him learn to play – next thing I know, he’s watching a saxophone unboxing video with a reviewer gushing over the saxophone he bought from Amazon.
Dylan16807 4y ago
The main reasons for those are better negotiated pay, and because on youtube that's the only way an uploader can attach specific ads to a video.
thih9 4y ago
What’s worse is when there is no clear distinction between the ad part and the actual content. Either via product placement, or the ad section starts inconspicuously and gradually morphs into a full featured endorsement
Gordonjcp 4y ago
I don't mind those if it's a good piece about the sponsor and I like the content. If it's a 10:01 waffle piece with a huge sponsor segment before you get to the good stuff, I won't watch it. Let's Game It Out is a great example of how to do the sponsor piece. I want to watch him take the piss out of the sponsor as much as the game.

derekp7 4y ago

Now all Youtube needs is to give the content creator the ability to disable the fast forward / skip 10 second buttons at specified portions of the video (in return for a fee of course).

midoridensha 4y ago
They could try that, but browser extensions like Enhancer for YouTube will fix it. Also, you can just download the video with youtube-dl and watch it that way.
weberer 4y ago
That's exactly what they do with their "Shorts" section. They completely take away play controls from the user.
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  Is there any way to add the controls back? I'd definitely like to disable the looping at the very least.

drdec 4y ago

This is how ads were in the beginning of television, the characters in the snow would talk about the product.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
And how ads on radio have been since forever.
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
And to be honest, I mind those a lot less. In fact, on old shows they're an interesting historical look into a society. To the point that they're included as bonus features.
dont__panic 4y ago
Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGDgnp7-uck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGDgnp7-uck ("Is that a PS Vita" in the middle of a dramatic, slow-paced show)
- blessedwhiskers 4y ago
  30 Rock executed this type of hamfisted product placement to great comedic effect, ending with a fourth wall break and "...can we have our money now?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36wUmJGzvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36wUmJGzvA

WD-42 4y ago

That's why we have SponsorBlock: https://sponsor.ajay.app/ https://sponsor.ajay.app/ It even has an API that youtube-dlp uses to automatically trim out sponsored sections from downloaded videos!

zimpenfish 4y ago
It's definitely useful - especially for yt-dlp - but I eventually had to turn it off due to the clipping being a bit wayward[1]. Often got videos where it'd clip 15-20s before the sponsor and 30s after which leads to horrible glitchy cuts. Or sometimes it would only cut out the middle 2m of a sponsor segment leading to, again, horrible glitchy cuts but with sponsorship. etc.etc. [1] This may be because I was downloading things reasonably quickly after they went up - waiting a day or two might have got better results?
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  It probably is only cutting on the keyframes. There's a flag to tell it to reencode up to and after the cuts, which would probably help a lot. Yep - https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/FAQ https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/FAQ >Video files cannot be cut at exact timestamps without re-encoding. yt-dlp does not re-encode the video by default, even when cutting is required. You can use --force-keyframes-at-cuts to force re-encoding; however, this process is slow - there is no way around this. I'd probably rather just tell it to mark the sponsor segments as chapters and then skip them manually. I think it marks them by default.
  - zimpenfish 4y ago
    Excellent, I shall try this out, thanks

PebblesRox 4y ago

Not to mention all the youtube videos that are just ads. My 11yo wanted to watch some saxophone videos to help him learn to play – next thing I know, he’s watching a saxophone unboxing video with a reviewer gushing over the saxophone he bought from Amazon.

Dylan16807 4y ago

The main reasons for those are better negotiated pay, and because on youtube that's the only way an uploader can attach specific ads to a video.

thih9 4y ago

What’s worse is when there is no clear distinction between the ad part and the actual content. Either via product placement, or the ad section starts inconspicuously and gradually morphs into a full featured endorsement

Gordonjcp 4y ago

I don't mind those if it's a good piece about the sponsor and I like the content. If it's a 10:01 waffle piece with a huge sponsor segment before you get to the good stuff, I won't watch it. Let's Game It Out is a great example of how to do the sponsor piece. I want to watch him take the piss out of the sponsor as much as the game.